Mr. Rinaldi, your knowledge means a lot to us here at LRC as you are one of the most respected coaches in the world. Would you care to provide your take on this race? What time would you have predicted?
If we end up with a 600m WR in the opener and a 99s 800m by the end of the season, how do we frame this season?
After his 3:29 I assumed his limiting factor in the 800 was now his 400m PB.
He went through in 47.6 for this 600 so I'm assuming assuming he's in 46 400 shape so as long as he can maintain this 600 shape at the same time as 3:29 shape then 1:41 is a guarantee. Assuming he hasn't gone all in on 400/800 and abandoned his 1500 shape.
I think this should be a wake up call to the future 800m pros (might be too late for guys 27-30 I fear).
Speed is the limiting factor for basically all of them. If you want to get faster at the 800, your 400m, your 200m, your 100m, will need to go down accordingly.
After his 3:29 I assumed his limiting factor in the 800 was now his 400m PB.
He went through in 47.6 for this 600 so I'm assuming assuming he's in 46 400 shape so as long as he can maintain this 600 shape at the same time as 3:29 shape then 1:41 is a guarantee. Assuming he hasn't gone all in on 400/800 and abandoned his 1500 shape.
He stomped Wanyonyi in pouring rain going 1:42.82 after the mental anguish of USAs disappointment...I think we had the data we needed to know he can run 1:41.x lol
After his 3:29 I assumed his limiting factor in the 800 was now his 400m PB.
He went through in 47.6 for this 600 so I'm assuming assuming he's in 46 400 shape so as long as he can maintain this 600 shape at the same time as 3:29 shape then 1:41 is a guarantee. Assuming he hasn't gone all in on 400/800 and abandoned his 1500 shape.
This comes up often on this forum, so i'm curious for the expert opinion - What kind of 400m and 1500m shape do you think is required for:
A. WR
B. 99 seconds
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I think this should be a wake up call to the future 800m pros (might be too late for guys 27-30 I fear).
Speed is the limiting factor for basically all of them. If you want to get faster at the 800, your 400m, your 200m, your 100m, will need to go down accordingly.
Wanyonyi, the guy who owns the 800 the last 2 years, was toying with the best 1500 meter guys head-to-head in Grand Slam events who thought they could dominate him in a tactical 1500 race because of "superior endurance"....and you still think raw speed is the limiting factor in the 800? lol
And nevermind Hoey's monster days documented on video this time last year of 10x300 in the AM + 25x400 at LT in the PM....I'm sure it was all the 100m sprint work during base phase that produced the 2025 version of Josh Hoey. lol
Have any of you ever even TRAINED before. I wonder sometimes.
After his 3:29 I assumed his limiting factor in the 800 was now his 400m PB.
He went through in 47.6 for this 600 so I'm assuming assuming he's in 46 400 shape so as long as he can maintain this 600 shape at the same time as 3:29 shape then 1:41 is a guarantee. Assuming he hasn't gone all in on 400/800 and abandoned his 1500 shape.
This comes up often on this forum, so i'm curious for the expert opinion - What kind of 400m and 1500m shape do you think is required for:
I think this should be a wake up call to the future 800m pros (might be too late for guys 27-30 I fear).
Speed is the limiting factor for basically all of them. If you want to get faster at the 800, your 400m, your 200m, your 100m, will need to go down accordingly.
Wanyonyi, the guy who owns the 800 the last 2 years, was toying with the best 1500 meter guys head-to-head in Grand Slam events who thought they could dominate him in a tactical 1500 race because of "superior endurance"....and you still think raw speed is the limiting factor in the 800? lol
And nevermind Hoey's monster days documented on video this time last year of 10x300 in the AM + 25x400 at LT in the PM....I'm sure it was all the 100m sprint work during base phase that produced the 2025 version of Josh Hoey. lol
Have any of you ever even TRAINED before. I wonder sometimes.
He showed today what he has that Hoppel does not have--SPEED. I don't know what to tell you. That's cool he did runs 300 and 400m repeats in practice, but that's what everyone else is doing too.
The prediction was made at under 73 with the legit chance of Grays outdoor mark also being eclipsed. Pretty damn close. Obviously a lot of this is still to do with you JR - congrats.
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Wanyonyi, the guy who owns the 800 the last 2 years, was toying with the best 1500 meter guys head-to-head in Grand Slam events who thought they could dominate him in a tactical 1500 race because of "superior endurance"....and you still think raw speed is the limiting factor in the 800? lol
And nevermind Hoey's monster days documented on video this time last year of 10x300 in the AM + 25x400 at LT in the PM....I'm sure it was all the 100m sprint work during base phase that produced the 2025 version of Josh Hoey. lol
Have any of you ever even TRAINED before. I wonder sometimes.
He showed today what he has that Hoppel does not have--SPEED. I don't know what to tell you. That's cool he did runs 300 and 400m repeats in practice, but that's what everyone else is doing too.
are we talking about the same people? Hoppel (3:39 pr) vs Hoey (3:29) ?
But sure, keep posting stuff that you think makes you sound "smart". Every post is a confession in a way you're not expecting lol
After his 3:29 I assumed his limiting factor in the 800 was now his 400m PB.
He went through in 47.6 for this 600 so I'm assuming assuming he's in 46 400 shape so as long as he can maintain this 600 shape at the same time as 3:29 shape then 1:41 is a guarantee. Assuming he hasn't gone all in on 400/800 and abandoned his 1500 shape.
45 400 shape! And he definitely hasn't gone all in on 4/8
Yeah I thought I was the only one who thought the " raw speed theory " was comical
On another note most of you in here were predicting Hoey's demise because of his coaching change. What future 800, middle distance runners out to do is ask him how is he so resilient!! Josh was stuck for a few years , and found a coach who brought him to an elite level. Now he is branching out on his own! I wish Josh the best of luck