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She would have been running in the late 80s, and this would have been a national level time then. I guess it possible, not sure if any old New York track fans could verify
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Dirtrunner wrote:
She would have been running in the late 80s, and this would have been a national level time then. I guess it possible, not sure if any old New York track fans could verify
I think she meant 1500 like she stated at start of interview. Ran the 1500m.
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in NY we run the 1500 at the NYSPHSAA, so maybe she’s using the mile as a shorthand for the 15? would still be really impressive
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Dirtrunner wrote:
She would have been running in the late 80s, and this would have been a national level time then. I guess it possible, not sure if any old New York track fans could verify
Not a chance. Most non runners don't even know what's a good mile time. Had a JV teammate who I ran into about 5 years ago at a family gathering and he mentioned to some high school kids that he broke 4 in the mile in high school. I only remember him because he was one of the slowest kids on the team.
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She posts here as the449miler
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from the bronx wrote:
in NY we run the 1500 at the NYSPHSAA, so maybe she’s using the mile as a shorthand for the 15? would still be really impressive
Im not the pinnacle of knowledge but NYS def ran the 16 back then and not the 15. YOU must be 15. She ran 35 years ago.
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No idea but she did look like an athlete then.
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She's got great genes.
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Dirtrunner wrote:
She would have been running in the late 80s, and this would have been a national level time then. I guess it possible, not sure if any old New York track fans could verify
This clip shows you my problem with Citius. They rush out to publish something without looking it up or being accurate. If you listen to the clip, it sounds like she's saying 1500 for 4:49.
I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt she ran 4:49 fo the mile in HS. Wouldn't that make her one of the top in the country in HS? She graduated HS in 1987. Does anyone have TFN magazines lying around from 84, 85, 86 or 87?
Track and Field news doesn't appear to have full archives for the 1980s online or at least I couldn't find them.
I found this but didn't check out all of the links:
Now her wikipedia does say she ran track at a "national level" so I guess it's possible. Let's sleuth this out.
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yumbum wrote:
She's got great genes.
That’s racist. Take it back.
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If she ran a 4:49 mile in 1987, she'd have been only a step behind two-time Kinney champ Erin Keough, who was also the first high school girl to break 10 in the 3200.
Unlikely.
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you do now but not then wrote:
Im not the pinnacle of knowledge but NYS def ran the 16 back then and not the 15. YOU must be 15. She ran 35 years ago.
They ran the 1500m. Winning time at states in '87 was 4:31.7
https://nysphsaa.org/documents/2020/NYS%20GIRLS%20OUTDOOR%20STATE%20CHAMPIONSHIPS.pdf
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as full of it as others wrote:
you do now but not then wrote:
Im not the pinnacle of knowledge but NYS def ran the 16 back then and not the 15. YOU must be 15. She ran 35 years ago.
They ran the 1500m. Winning time at states in '87 was 4:31.7
Prior to 1500m they ran in yards. NY has never has a State meet 1600.
It was roughly 1978 when switch was made.
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Yeah if you listen back, she mentions 1500m first and I think her mind just kinda stays there when she brings up the time. 4:49 1500m is about a 5:11-12 mile, so very good and much more believable
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Kobbs Hessler wrote:
If she ran a 4:49 mile in 1987, she'd have been only a step behind two-time Kinney champ Erin Keough, who was also the first high school girl to break 10 in the 3200.
Unlikely.
Are you sure about that? I have Keough's best as 10:03.07. I think Mortenson was the first under 10:00 for 3200.
https://tools.nfhs.org/RecordBook/Record-book-result.aspx?CategoryId=1687
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If you go to
you can download for free pdf’s of the track and field news issues you referenced.
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you do now but not then wrote:
from the bronx wrote:
in NY we run the 1500 at the NYSPHSAA, so maybe she’s using the mile as a shorthand for the 15? would still be really impressive
Im not the pinnacle of knowledge but NYS def ran the 16 back then and not the 15. YOU must be 15. She ran 35 years ago.
Moran.
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Saw Erin run i think 10:03 at Va state meet in 1986 for 3200. I also thought she was the first to break 10. She was extremely thin.
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coahc wrote:
Saw Erin run i think 10:03 at Va state meet in 1986 for 3200. I also thought she was the first to break 10. She was extremely thin.
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