Rupp is still about 10 pounds heavier than what i would prefer him to be in order to come back around to full form. Why isn't he finding a few 10k track races to do before his road events? Even at his age, you can't survive in the road scene without even slicing things up on the track.
Troll post considering Fisher’s results since winter, all of which have been solid and a few of which have been superb (namely 7:22 and 12:44 indoor WRs).
I’ve never been convinced that he’s yet surpassed Rupp.
-Looking at Olympic resume, it’s advantage Rupp in my opinion (2nd-3rd-5th-7th-8th vs. 3rd-3rd-5th). At outdoor Worlds, Rupp’s been 4th-5th-5th-7th-8th-8th while Fisher’s gone 4th-6th-8th-8th.
-Rupp has nine U.S. titles at 5k/10k - 8 of them in the 10k spanning consecutive years from 2009-2016. Fisher has three U.S. titles at 5k/10k (2x 5k, 1x 10k). Admittedly, the 10k fields Rupp was beating weren’t nearly as strong as the ones Fisher has had to contend with, but 8 straight years of dominance has to be appreciated.
-The marathon portion of Rupp’s career (2:06:07, Olympic bronze, Chicago 1st, Chicago 2nd, Boston 2nd) has to be considered a success and a feather in his cap that Fisher has not yet earned.
-In Fisher’s favor, even when adjusting for eras (like shoes) l think he has the stronger set of PRs at mile/3k/5k/10k. I mean 3:48.29, 7:22.91, 12:44.09 and 26:33.84 is just insanely studly. That said, with the advent of wavelight, and the recent popularity of BU time trial fests, and “The Ten,” guys these days are getting more cracks at optimized time trials than just 10 years ago; if you happen to remember the workout video of Rupp soloing (IIRC) 6xmile with the last one at close to 4:00, after running an 8:07i 2-mile AR, you’ll believe that Rupp could have dropped something ludicrous in a modern day BU situation.
It should go without saying that Fisher still has time to surpass Rupp if he can extend his 5k/10k prime and/or have a successful marathon stage. With his professionalism and intelligence, I see no reason why he can’t, and in fact I can imagine him becoming “the American Kipchoge,” as in being a remarkably consistent marathoner late into his 30s and lowering the AR to 2:03.
Forgive me for the novel, I had too much coffee before my workout this morning.
Troll post considering Fisher’s results since winter, all of which have been solid and a few of which have been superb (namely 7:22 and 12:44 indoor WRs).
I’ve never been convinced that he’s yet surpassed Rupp.
-Looking at Olympic resume, it’s advantage Rupp in my opinion (2nd-3rd-5th-7th-8th vs. 3rd-3rd-5th). At outdoor Worlds, Rupp’s been 4th-5th-5th-7th-8th-8th while Fisher’s gone 4th-6th-8th-8th.
-Rupp has nine U.S. titles at 5k/10k - 8 of them in the 10k spanning consecutive years from 2009-2016. Fisher has three U.S. titles at 5k/10k (2x 5k, 1x 10k). Admittedly, the 10k fields Rupp was beating weren’t nearly as strong as the ones Fisher has had to contend with, but 8 straight years of dominance has to be appreciated.
-The marathon portion of Rupp’s career (2:06:07, Olympic bronze, Chicago 1st, Chicago 2nd, Boston 2nd) has to be considered a success and a feather in his cap that Fisher has not yet earned.
-In Fisher’s favor, even when adjusting for eras (like shoes) l think he has the stronger set of PRs at mile/3k/5k/10k. I mean 3:48.29, 7:22.91, 12:44.09 and 26:33.84 is just insanely studly. That said, with the advent of wavelight, and the recent popularity of BU time trial fests, and “The Ten,” guys these days are getting more cracks at optimized time trials than just 10 years ago; if you happen to remember the workout video of Rupp soloing (IIRC) 6xmile with the last one at close to 4:00, after running an 8:07i 2-mile AR, you’ll believe that Rupp could have dropped something ludicrous in a modern day BU situation.
It should go without saying that Fisher still has time to surpass Rupp if he can extend his 5k/10k prime and/or have a successful marathon stage. With his professionalism and intelligence, I see no reason why he can’t, and in fact I can imagine him becoming “the American Kipchoge,” as in being a remarkably consistent marathoner late into his 30s and lowering the AR to 2:03.
Forgive me for the novel, I had too much coffee before my workout this morning.