He runs twice a day. He runs hard at least 1 run each day, sometimes two.
Yes, he is faster than all of us, but he has no idea how to train. I tell him he’s an idiot and should be running easy-mid for nearly all of his runs.
Anyone else deal with guys like this?
No times posted. Poor bait
He frustrates me wrote:
He runs twice a day. He runs hard at least 1 run each day, sometimes two.
Yes, he is faster than all of us, but he has no idea how to train. I tell him he’s an idiot and should be running easy-mid for nearly all of his runs.
Anyone else deal with guys like this?
Why do you think he's doing something wrong? Is he faster than you? Why are you right?
Was he pounding the table at the awards ceremony for the Turkey Trot?
He frustrates me wrote:
He runs twice a day. He runs hard at least 1 run each day, sometimes two.
Yes, he is faster than all of us, but he has no idea how to train. I tell him he’s an idiot and should be running easy-mid for nearly all of his runs.
Anyone else deal with guys like this?
It's all about talent. You can train like an idiot and run fast. Vice versa, without talent you can live the life of an olympian and never break 17min. Such is life.
I trained like this when I was 20. Trying to make up for being out injured for a while. I finished 5 or 6 runs a week hard - 5 or 6 days a week. I improved a ton for about 2 months. Then I got injured. I was out 6 months. Some people will have to learn from trial and error. I was one of them when I was young.
This guy kicks your ass. He sounds hot.
OP, you sound jealous.
I was never particularly fast (17:28 5k pr back in the early 2010’s), but to me at the time, the enjoyment of training came from pushing myself to my limit most days…I wasn’t particularly interested in how fast I could become long-term, I was more interested in my mental strength in the moment, specifically what my limits to pain tolerance in the sport were.
Everybody has different focuses.
These guys are in every town, just learn to laugh. It’s their loss after all, not yours
I've met a few people who actually thrive with that kind of training. Not many, but a few. I know a guy who does almost all of his easy runs at 6:30, and often gets down to 6:00 or a bit faster at the end. "Eight minute mile" is not in his vocabulary. He runs a 2:2x marathon doing this.
How about just minding your own business?
I did this and don't regret it one bit.
I'd already seen that I couldn't hang with my college team, I could run fast and test myself daily, and still win road races if I wanted. Everyone should find their own way - we all can't be Jared Word or Galen Rupe.
if you're a 2:2x guy, doing all your easy runs at 6:00-6:30 isn't totally crazy. he's clearly talented and physically strong enough to handle that kind of training whereas most other people would just crash and burn. if you can break 2:30, you're not most people.
I had a guy on my race team after college who ran 75 MPW. He did 6 runs of 10 miles at 6 minute pace and then a 15 miler dropping from low 6 to 5:15. He ran 2:20 marathon but I could beat him in every distance shorter than that.
Are they doing traditional hard workouts as well? Whats their mileage? How fast are they going?
Those that don't do workouts and just run kinda naturally have a faster easy run pace because they don't need to run as slow to recover as they didn't push their body that hard in a workout. The more days I am away from a hard workout my easy pace increases with the same effort.
He frustrates me wrote:
He runs twice a day. He runs hard at least 1 run each day, sometimes two.
Yes, he is faster than all of us, but he has no idea how to train. I tell him he’s an idiot and should be running easy-mid for nearly all of his runs.
Anyone else deal with guys like this?
OK Karen. Report him to the HOA.
It is competitive running for those of us who want to be good. Moping around between 8:30-9:00/mile pace isn't going to make you good.
I ran 'hard' every day in high school, but only one run per day. Like an 8 mile progression run from 6:20 down to 5:20's pace with a 5:50 average was a pretty normal run. Sometimes I'd go faster and run sub 5 at the end. It worked pretty well, was a state champion, but I definitely stagnated not really improving much throughout the season. It's not the ideal way to train, but to say you can't run 'fast' off of training like that is not accurate. It's better than severely undertraining. I also didn't have much of a sprint kick, I spent so much of my time running mid 5 minute pace but nothing faster that I got super strong, but didn't have much of an extra gear. In a race I'd just lock onto the same pace the whole race with no kick.
talent wins wrote:
I had a guy on my race team after college who ran 75 MPW. He did 6 runs of 10 miles at 6 minute pace and then a 15 miler dropping from low 6 to 5:15. He ran 2:20 marathon but I could beat him in every distance shorter than that.
You could beat him at half marathon? What was your time?