I did about 15 miles one day and did an interval session the next day. I wouldn't normally do that but due to various factors it was the only time I could fit in that session on the track.
This guy saw it on Strava and was convinced that by doing this session the day after, I'd "wasted" the long run - essentially as if I'd never done it. Complete nonsense right?
It was to do with the gains from running coming from recovery and if you don't recover after a run you won't get the gains from it. Very simplistic but there you go.
It was to do with the gains from running coming from recovery and if you don't recover after a run you won't get the gains from it. Very simplistic but there you go.
He is either underestimating your fitness or he habitually does his long runs too hard.
It was to do with the gains from running coming from recovery and if you don't recover after a run you won't get the gains from it. Very simplistic but there you go.
Recovery happens when you're chilling and sleeping, not during the run. The only way this was bad is if it prevents you from getting this week's workouts or mileage in because you cooked your legs. You could argue whether it was optimal or not and if it was either do them back to back or no long run, I'd say you picked the right choice (especially if it was a chill long run).
I did about 15 miles one day and did an interval session the next day. I wouldn't normally do that but due to various factors it was the only time I could fit in that session on the track.
This guy saw it on Strava and was convinced that by doing this session the day after, I'd "wasted" the long run - essentially as if I'd never done it. Complete nonsense right?
Dude, you are now fact checking me on the internet? Doing that puts both your long run and workout to waste. They both unhappened.
It was to do with the gains from running coming from recovery and if you don't recover after a run you won't get the gains from it. Very simplistic but there you go.
Anecdotal but when I came back from injury and ran a lot less with more recovery days, I improved my PBs at 5 and 10k. Seen other people on here say the same thing when they came back to running after "quitting".
It was to do with the gains from running coming from recovery and if you don't recover after a run you won't get the gains from it. Very simplistic but there you go.
I think you meant to say very simpleton.
OP, what you did is pretty much boilerplate. You did 15 miles one day, then did an interval session the next. I must have done that 1000 times. Where's the beef? The only fault that I see is that you care what knuckleheads think. You're good.
It was to do with the gains from running coming from recovery and if you don't recover after a run you won't get the gains from it. Very simplistic but there you go.
I think you meant to say very simpleton.
OP, what you did is pretty much boilerplate. You did 15 miles one day, then did an interval session the next. I must have done that 1000 times. Where's the beef? The only fault that I see is that you care what knuckleheads think. You're good.
If you did 15 mile long run and it was close to max effort for your long runs (think last 8 at half marathon goal pace) and your interval workout was a long broken tempo workout (10x mile at half marathon pace) 12x1k at 10k pace 5xmile at 5k pace. Then no that was not optimal. But did it ruin your long run gains?! Probably not it probably just ruined the next 5 days of running but in the long run is just an unnecessary injury risk.
Now if you ran 15 miles the majority easy or heck even medium and did one of the above style workouts you are completely fine with not huge injury risk.
If you intervals the next day was something like 300s or 200s to focus on leg speed and form you are completely fine.
I would argue it's probably more optimal to swap intervals with a long run unless the long run is completely easy. For instance in marathon training I'll do a huge long workout 10-15 miles of work, then an easy 16-20 the next day and then a shorter leg speed day the next. That 16-20 is a long run but it's all easy. I am training time on feet and running efficiency not like a hard long run where you are training running fast on tired legs. Context of what you are training for is very important too and context of your milage the workout the previous weeks etc.
OP, what you did is pretty much boilerplate. You did 15 miles one day, then did an interval session the next. I must have done that 1000 times. Where's the beef? The only fault that I see is that you care what knuckleheads think. You're good.
So Malmo you admit that you did 1000 longruns ?
At least.
FWIW 15 miles isn't a long run. Its a walk in the park.
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I did about 15 miles one day and did an interval session the next day. I wouldn't normally do that but due to various factors it was the only time I could fit in that session on the track.
This guy saw it on Strava and was convinced that by doing this session the day after, I'd "wasted" the long run - essentially as if I'd never done it. Complete nonsense right?
what are the PRs of the gentleman who is analyzing your training.
The Russians were well known for doing two (hard) workouts in a row when I was running top class. Each workout of the two will not affect your performance and the gain was significant. They would do a big race and wheel it back the next day as long as it wasn't the same type (long run followed by high class interval) and vice versa as an example. We thought at the type that this kind of workout would cause injuries, but it didn't. It really worked out like getting 1 good workout and another 1 good workout, but it really worked out not to two, but got the equivalent of 2 and a 1/2 instead.
It worked perfectly for me because lots of times we raced heats, then semi's then finals in two days. But it didn't work to put a rest day in between or even an easy workout. Turns out on the third day was when most of the repair from the first hard workout was going on in day 3. I was lucky to have a high school coach who trained me in high school and later in university. Best of luck to you. My workouts I am talking about took place between 1957-1967 so I can understand if my information might be outdated. However, as a Master runner from 1983-1989 I was a World Champion six times.
About to turn 83 in 2 days, I can no longer run and about the slowest walker possible.
Not wasted, but IMO it is like doing back to back workouts. Works for some people not for others. As long as you don't get sick/injured/exhausted by doing this.
A very easy long run will leave glycogen stores relatively intact and if you've got a good mileage base, the intramuscular damage will be minimal.
One year, one of my JV kids did 15 the day before our league opener, because it was the last day to get mileage for our summer mileage club. He got the T-shirt for the mileage and PR'ed at the meet the next day.