The whole challenge of the 800 is holding it together over the final 200. And you can never be sure you'll hold form and speed. That's what makes each race interesting.
If eating a bunch of baking soda with a buffer to get past the stomach eliminates this factor, yes it's nice to see faster times, but that will lose all meaning pretty quick. You'll see.
Who'd a thunk a simple trick like that would make the 800 so easy, all those decades nobody knew. But there it is.
The whole challenge of the 800 is holding it together over the final 200. And you can never be sure you'll hold form and speed. That's what makes each race interesting.
If eating a bunch of baking soda with a buffer to get past the stomach eliminates this factor, yes it's nice to see faster times, but that will lose all meaning pretty quick. You'll see.
Who'd a thunk a simple trick like that would make the 800 so easy, all those decades nobody knew. But there it is.
So does Rudisha run 1:39.80 with bicarbonate and does Krotchlady run 1:52.05 or so? Or even faster?
I sincerely hope not. I hope it's all another fad, placebo effect at best.
But the improbable performances keep stacking up. Too many people going 1:41, too many Keely's going 1:54, too many high school sophomores going 1:42. Getting hard to disbelieve.
I guess I'm gonna have to try it and see. But in a way, I don't wanna know.
So does Rudisha run 1:39.80 with bicarbonate and does Krotchlady run 1:52.05 or so? Or even faster?
I sincerely hope not. I hope it's all another fad, placebo effect at best.
But the improbable performances keep stacking up. Too many people going 1:41, too many Keely's going 1:54, too many high school sophomores going 1:42. Getting hard to disbelieve.
I guess I'm gonna have to try it and see. But in a way, I don't wanna know.
It’s not a fad. Shoes plus bicarb have changed the game completely. You saw it in the Paris Olympic 1500 as well. It applies to the 800/1500 and, to a lesser extent, 3000-5000. New era.
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super shoes are a fad. Runners just don't generally understand physics well enough to disbelieve them.
Add all the 45 and 46 400 hurdlers to the improbables list. I'm close to 100% sure Warholm was pretty much lactic free in his last 50m. Nowhere near tying up
it's been that long, hasn't it? How easy it is to forget 1:40.91 was never threatened at all by "super shoes." This all started just last year. And that's my last remark on this digression, this thread is about bicarb
it's been that long, hasn't it? How easy it is to forget 1:40.91 was never threatened at all by "super shoes." This all started just last year. And that's my last remark on this digression, this thread is about bicarb
Super shoes work on longer distances, but anything under 3k the effect should be minimal. And we should distinguish between super shoes and super spikes. Super spikes, the one you use on track, have a far lower stack height, which means the benefit is quite small compared to their "fatter" counterpart on the road.
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The whole challenge of the 800 is holding it together over the final 200. And you can never be sure you'll hold form and speed. That's what makes each race interesting.
If eating a bunch of baking soda with a buffer to get past the stomach eliminates this factor, yes it's nice to see faster times, but that will lose all meaning pretty quick. You'll see.
Who'd a thunk a simple trick like that would make the 800 so easy, all those decades nobody knew. But there it is.
What, are you claiming they're all on Maurten bi carb? EPO is far cheaper in poor countries
The whole challenge of the 800 is holding it together over the final 200. And you can never be sure you'll hold form and speed. That's what makes each race interesting.
If eating a bunch of baking soda with a buffer to get past the stomach eliminates this factor, yes it's nice to see faster times, but that will lose all meaning pretty quick. You'll see.
Who'd a thunk a simple trick like that would make the 800 so easy, all those decades nobody knew. But there it is.
What, are you claiming they're all on Maurten bi carb? EPO is far cheaper in poor countries
Peronalized PED cocktails are far better and that's what athletes in your country are taking.
The whole challenge of the 800 is holding it together over the final 200. And you can never be sure you'll hold form and speed. That's what makes each race interesting.
If eating a bunch of baking soda with a buffer to get past the stomach eliminates this factor, yes it's nice to see faster times, but that will lose all meaning pretty quick. You'll see.
Who'd a thunk a simple trick like that would make the 800 so easy, all those decades nobody knew. But there it is.
That is what doping is for, getting that final wind as others die down and you just keep on going....
The men's 800 was trash just a few years ago. Only 1 guy broke 1:44 in all of the rounds in the 2021 Olympics, and the final was won in 1:45.x. I guarantee all of those guys were aware of baking soda back then.