Anybody know a trustworthy conversion from the 300h to the 400 open. Parents pulled one of my 4x4 boys from the team two days before our Regional meet. The kid I'm thinking about runs 41.3 for the 300 hurdles.
Other options include a 54high guy.
Anybody know a trustworthy conversion from the 300h to the 400 open. Parents pulled one of my 4x4 boys from the team two days before our Regional meet. The kid I'm thinking about runs 41.3 for the 300 hurdles.
Other options include a 54high guy.
Don't know of any conversion, but judgmentally a 41.3 is much better than a 54 high.
Kents wrote:
Anybody know a trustworthy conversion from the 300h to the 400 open. Parents pulled one of my 4x4 boys from the team two days before our Regional meet. The kid I'm thinking about runs 41.3 for the 300 hurdles.
Other options include a 54high guy.
depends on his hrdle form.
if his form is good and he runs a 41, he could be a 53-55 sec 400m runner. if his form is bad, he could be anywhere from a 50 (if his form really sucks) to a 52 sec guy.
if he also runs the highs, i would guess his form is decent and he runs about a 53-54.
I'd go with the hurdler, but it depends on the meet schedule. Where I'm from you have the 800,200,3200 in between the 300h and the 4 x 4.
41 is NOT much better than a 54. a 42 300 (if you kept pace for the next 100) would be a 56. a 41.3 300h is equal to about a 57 high 58 low 400h
I could usaully figure my conversion by adding 10 seconds (or subracting) which ever way you are going.
41.3=51.3 (however I never did have the best form in High school, so if he has good form add a second of two.)
i used to run the 300h and 400m in hs. i had decent but not great hurdle form (high 16s in the 110h) and when i was running low 41s in the 300h, my 400m times were usually in the 52s (and that was doubling, where the 400 was probably 30-40 minutes after the hurdles). summary: go with the hurdler.
had a wonderful young man run 39.7(pr is 39.2) in the 300H with God awful form, and then a 50.2 in the 4x4 90min later. Only a Junior so hope form improves should be 38.xx next year. Hopefully this helps
Thanks guys, pretty much what I was figuring. His form is good, deff not sloppy. He runs the 110's but hasn't this year due to a back injury. He does run a leg on the 4x1 team so his speed is good. I was estimating a 53low from him.
aren't you forgetting that there are hurdles in the way?
your conversion makes no sense.
I've seen 41.5 guys not break 54 and 42.5 guys run 51.5, so it all depends. You can't get an accurate conversion.
Klech the top 300 hurdler in the High School Nation ran 35.4 at Arcadia for the 300 hurdles and ran 47.3 for 400 meters a couple weeks ago. Hope that helps.
all american 400h wrote:
aren't you forgetting that there are hurdles in the way?
your conversion makes no sense.
Sure it does. For him. Everyone's different, but he's not just dividing the race into thirds and adding one of those thirds on, or anything crazy like that. It's what he's observed (presumably) from him own career.
Similar to how people say your 3200m time tends to roughly equal your 3k steeple potential time, but that of course varies depending on form.
Go with the hurdler.
when I was running in the 41s (consistantly) I could definitly run faster than a 54, prolly 52-52.5 in a relay. My form was maybe like a 8 out of ten for a high schooler. After that, my times in both started coming down pretty evenly, just as I got a little more long sprint endurance.
We had a guy with pretty good form run a 39.99. He also ran the 4x4 and usually ran low to mid 52s, but once split a 51. I would expect a 41.3 guy to run between 54.0 and 54.9.
i kno a kid that runs 43.xx and runs 52.xx, i geuss it just depends
Hi Dustin!
I wouldn't go with either. I'd stick in the 10:20 2 miler that you've got. He's good for a 54 flat.
Anyone know the conversion from a 300H to a 400H? I cant find it anywhere and using the search function this is the closest thread I could find. 39.60 would convert to....?