Super Dean Karnazes a Navy SEAL?

I challenge Dean Kamazes to not get LAPPED by 14 year old freshman female Jordan Hasay in a 5,000 meter race on the track.

This story (and the graphics that accompany it) are going to give a lot of people a false perception about SEAL training. I'm a twig of a runner, but I could easily pound out that session, as could at least ten of my teammates. Of course I'd be eliminated within the first five minutes of ACTUAL SEAL school, but for any moderately fit person, this is hardly a challenge at all.

Mitch Hall smoked Dean in everything even the run. That guy is obviously pretty damn fit but for the accolades Karnazes gets he should be able to easily handle that guy in the "1.5" mile run.

Why does Dean have his pants jacked up so high?

Is he mocking the other people?

Here's a programme that is sort of similar to the seals, but for civilians:

http://conditionyellow.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/

here's how the all scored. What I don't understand is how Dean could only knock out 40 sit ups..... That's strange to me.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?o=0&f=/c/a/2006/05/18/SPGASITLA11.DTL

Wow, that Mitch Hall guy is a beast. 34 pullups? Plus he averaged 5:14 pace for the 1.5 mile run, which is pretty solid in boots, long pants, and following all the other exercises.

SEAL school is more of an attrition battle. See who can stand stress and sleepless nights. Not just for one-time fitness buffs. Been there.

I've got to give Dean credit - he ran 9:47, in boots, after everything else. That's pretty tough. He cranked out 72 push-ups and 13 pull ups AFTER swimming, which is very impressive.

90% of this board couldn't do 13 pull-ups straight up, let alone after swimming 500m.

I don't care for his self promotion, but his performance here rates pretty high. He's a 43 year old guy and other than the situps, he had more than enough to pass the Navy SEALs entrance standards, against guys who are half his age. Very few folks posting here could do that sort of stuff. He'd make mincemeat out of some of the guys I work with, and so I'm impressed. One day fitness warrior or not, I'd put my money on Dean over anyone here.

ivy plants wrote:

This story (and the graphics that accompany it) are going to give a lot of people a false perception about SEAL training. I'm a twig of a runner, but I could easily pound out that session, as could at least ten of my teammates. Of course I'd be eliminated within the first five minutes of ACTUAL SEAL school, but for any moderately fit person, this is hardly a challenge at all.

I call BS. 10 of your teammates can do 13 pull-ups each? and 72 push-ups in 2 minutes?

That's crap and you know it. I'm sure you'll post on there how you're the pull-up king of evansville or some podunk town, but we both know the truth - you couldn't do half of what Karnazes did.

I agree, but mostly it's because the swim KILLS people that aren't used to it. I'm a skinny distance runner and I can do 100+ pushups with about a month's preparation or about 75 just naturally, but doing it after a fast swim is out of the question. Actually try to do this yourself and you'll realize how much more difficult it is to do all this stuff with only 2-10 mins rest between each part than you think.

I would also like to point out that the minimum standards for SEALs are pretty weak, so it's not that amazing to be able to achieve them. The thing about getting into BUD/S, though, is that it's competetive, so you have to beat out all the other guys that want to get in. So the worst score that gets into BUD/S is much higher than the minimum.

Those common tested-endurance regimens are still pretty challenging, even though are designed by the Armed Forces so that many can pass, otherwise they would not have anyone as SEAL or Special Forces members. I'd like to see how Karnazes or a decathlete to see how they would fare. They aren't required to have the wicked mental portion that the Marine Reconaissance training has, after which the Marines are locked up in cages any time they are stateside ;-)

Sorta wrote:

I'd like to see how Karnazes or a decathlete to see how they would fare. They aren't required to have the wicked mental portion that the Marine Reconaissance training has...

You don't think Karnazes could handle the mental portion? Jeez, the guy has run something like 250 miles straight through. Don't you think that takes some sort of mental toughness. Didn't he win the Death Valley Ultra? These things are mental events. I think he's also a pretty successful stockbroker - something that requires lots of long hours and mental discipline.

I know people like to hate on Dean K. because when push comes to shove, he's not what we think of as a "runner." He'd lose any interval to probably the slowest runner in D1 and you know what, he'd admit that fact too. He knows he's not a 5k guy - he said so. I heard an interview with him once and he said that his talent lies not in running the fastest, but being able to continue running when others quit.

Somehow I think Karnazes would make it through SEAL training. I know one thing, he wouldn't quit on himself or anyone else. They'd have to drag him out of there in a body bag.

People here like to talk tough about how these sorts of things are easy. They seem easy on paper, but they're not. I was a D1 middle distance guy in the mid-90s. Nothing great, but not a slouch either, PR's of 1:04.8 500, 1:53.7 800 and 3:57 1500. Ran 25:55 for 8k XC (Lehigh, where everyone PRs!), 26:20 at VCP.

When I joined the Forest Service, I thought I'd be one of the most fit guys around. And when it came to running, I was. I had no problem with the 1.5 time trial, or any of the mountain runs. But I got my ass kicked straight out of the gate in push-ups and pull-ups. I could always do 50 or push-ups and 8 or so pull-ups just on natural ability. But unless you're training for it, guys who can do much more than that are pretty rare. But guys I worked with were tough as nails, every much competitors as the guys who laced up spikes, sometimes more. They didn't give an inch on anything.

Some of my co-workers now have military backgrounds - special forces and one SEAL. others are just tough guys from tough backgrounds. Being a runner, and a D1 runner doesn't make anyone any different from someone in these programs. I've only run into 2 other D1 distance runners in my time here. Lots of rowers and swimmers though.

Yeah, look what happened when John Rambo came back home...

All those times and stats are nice to know and are what your T&F, SF, smoke jumpers, and SEALs are all about. It's an SAT test for the best athetes, and that's all it amounts to.

Jonn Rembao was a SEAL. That nice guy from SMU ?

it's the mental torture that many fail at in the marines. countless policemen, football players, firemen, boxers, wrestlers, gang bangers, bikers, kung fu artists, etc. have tried, buckled under, and were sent home to mama. the marines train not as lifesavers, firemen, search & rescue, law enforcement, emergency medical nurses, etc. marines train specifically to hunt down human beings and kill them by hand, bayonet, pistol, rifle, grenade, mortar, artillery, missile, etc. the record of the u.s. marines is unmatched anywhere. maybe dean can make the seals, etc. i wish him luck.

Any reasonably good age-group level triathlete could do this, and probably beat up on most of the seal guys anyway.

I used to live in San Diego and ripping apart seals at your local tris was considered sport.

Of course, I could not do what they do with a 200lbs pack on my back.

yet another PR moment from Evel Karnievel. The clock has now started...in 2 seconds someone will chime in with the usual, tired Karnivore defense, "leave him alone, he's just an entrepreneur and you are jealous." Screw him, he's a sideshow act for the masses of cattle..for the Good Morning America waxy grins and Tony Danza fans.