Where are all the Jerry Schumacher haters? The Duck distance men scored 68 distance points at 2025 Big 10s

This Schumacher fellow, is he the burrito guy?

Teg and Solinsky were the real burrito OGs.

People forget he was an NCAA championship coach at Wisco and managed to have Bowerman rolling for a long while. That takes a lot of people management, which is ultimately a hallmark of a great head coach/director.

I've had the pleasure of having my team in the same hotels as him at some meets the last two years and he has always been a pleasant guy to chat with. Hard not to root for him if you got a chance to meet him.

Big10’s is a competition then neither Shelby nor I had ever heard of.

Cool, Jerry’s team with all the resources on earth, won what was effectively a tri-meet.

The same place haters always go to hide when they are wrong: their mother’s basement! 😆

Sorry mods. You can't delete a post like that. If the whole thread goes that way, yes. But one post? No.

PS. While I'm a big Jerry defender, I guess it should be pointed out that it shoud have been even more points. He got really unlucky that the 100k+ Kenyan 800 guy - Kidali - didn't even score 1 point.

Truth be told, Jerry was and still is a legendary college coach. College coach is probably the sweet spot for him as an occupation. This year's team appears to have bought into the Jerry culture of self-control, big miles, big intervals, human excellence and chasing championships.

This program worked for early Bowerman TC because that was a Wisconsin-based group he previously coached to success in college using the same methodologies.

This same program obviously didnt work as well for the latter Bowerman TC group. There were complaints.

When Shelbo got popped and the Bowerman TC group basically dissolved, the Oregon position was a consolation prize for Jerry. He became their golden child and was brought into the Nike family for shielding Shelby and their brand. He read directly from a pre-type piece of paper. Bowerman TC lasted perhaps 10 years overall. This is what was next, if there was a next.

The Oregon position would have also been appealing to Jerry because he had to be made a significant offer to leave his post at Wisconsin before 2010. He dreamed of that role as a college coach as a 20-something year old. Plus he and the family probably didnt want to move again.

Jerry has used 90% of the allotted scholarships on distance runners. The rest of the team is a shell of what it used to be. At NcAA they will be a non factor.

If Birnbaum gets dumped out of the heats at Nats, the "JV Cooper T" taunts will commence, sadly.

I've talked to the guys at a couple meets, I think they're mentality is mostly we're young and fresh.

Simeon's done pretty well considering how difficult it is for freshmen or sophomores to place at NCAAs and Aiden Smith and Tayson Echohawk are much more promising than expected. I evene choed these points to their media team at NCAAs. The thing is that what's their one big disappointment? His inaugural season when the XC team missed NCAAs.

Other than that, there's been a lot of course corrections: Their 800-mile squad is one of the two best in the country with Washington and have guys who can win on any given day as shown with Matt Erickson. Their cross-country team I believe won the West regional. Either that or they got second. Right now, transfers like Evan Burke and Evan Bishop are having great seasons as we just saw in the big 12, so I think things are great

Amazing what can happen when Stanford’s not in the way — Oregon’s distance crew reminded everyone what home track advantage (and a stacked roster) really looks like.

Why does Jerry hurt so many athletes? Injury after injury.

as a former duck, fan, hater, observer.

happy to see the boys doing good.

hater of Nike, and lousy use of a world class facility

where again, i'm very happy to be proven wrong wrong wrong

may the says or the rhomping eugene fans and spectical of hayward come back in spades.

always felt like those wisco teams way underachieved.. year after year they were bringing in by far recruiting class and only managed one national championship?

The people you’re calling out are more than likely the type to never take accountability. They’ll come up with an excuse on here to justify their hatred/ jealousy.

“Oh but he injures his athletes” (like EVERY single coach deals with who trains elite competitive athletes).

Mike Smith has a recent history of developing Olympians. Yet pretty much every single one of his 2024 Men’s national XC lineup has dealt with some type of injury within the past 12 months. Must be a bad coach then, eh? (Not).

All NCAA competitions are meaningless

Why should I care if a school that always recruits the top distance runners does well in distance at a conference meet? I should what, expect Ohio State to do better?

ZERO entertainment value whatsoever. Worst thing about the sport, really.

Jerry blew off his first two years and now is finally getting some good results. But the fact is that his training system results in massive casualties. His predecessor Robert Johnson didn't have to just give up on multiple years. He was too busy winning national championships all over the board. With the name and recruiting advantages that program should dominate. I notice he still doesn't have a healthy Connor Burns or a full strength Rheinhardt Harrison. He failed to adapt to Dan Watcke's talents and only took a semester to lose him to Villanova, where he is flourishing. Birnbaum's spent time on the shelf this year again. The xc program is still not a national contender. So, he has a ways to go still despite having a lock on most top distance prospects.