TWO HIGHSCHOOLERS FROM THE SAME SCHOOL GO SUB 4 IN THE SAME RACE

What race?

This is honestly so crazy, mixed also with the new hs record. I’m surprised this stuff isn’t blowing up

this deserves a black page. imagine telling someone 20 years ago that 3 high schoolers would break 4 on the same day, 2 of them under the old national record, and 2 of them being from the same school

i mean wtf lol

it's a fuc*ing travesty

It happened at BU which is a cheating track, so it doesn’t count

Or something like Lex/Leo/Colin/Aaron all going sub-4 in 2022

I love what they did and don't get me wrong, they are amazing runners regardless of what track they are on. I am not a hater.

But it makes me wish we could pay an elite "control group" of 3:59 milers to run all-out miles in pairs of Zoom Kennedys on a normal 1990s style track with no bi-carb.

I assume the people from today will still be a lot faster due to their improved training and career length (they all started in 6th grade), etc. but how much better would they be?

If you offered everyone who broke 3:59 in the mile this year $10,000 to come within two seconds of their times, do you think they could do it using the old tech?

Have a drink, Ruxton

Try to relax

rather than offering high schoolers some money

I think drinking would suit you better

you have to narrow an understanding of how super hoes are impacting performances. Most of the benefit comes in training in the shoes, racing in them is a bonus.

get me some of them hoes

I mean 20 years ago the record was Webb's 3:59 right? And he went on to run 3:53 outdoors. They'd be expecting these guys to start running 3:49 lmao

Btw the progression for the last indoor mile record holders:

Webb 3:59i --> 3:53

Hunter 3:57i --> lyme's disease

Kessler 3:57i --> 3:51eq

Powell 3:56i --> _______

Based on history, Powell is either gonna get sick, or he's gonna run 3:50.

Bicarbonate loading has been around a loooong time. I have an ex phys textbook from the mid 90s with a section on it.

I think one thing that people are overlooking is that kids are just training harder / better these days.

My current crop of athletes is so much more locked in than previous years. Not just in training, but nutrition and sleep as well. my top guys were running somewhere between 50-70 MPW this winter. This is twice as much as I’d been able to get my top kids to run in the past. I had a kid run 4x2k at threshold effort (@7:05, 90 sec recovery) today followed by 4x200 in 30 sec. I would have never had a kid do something like that 10 years ago. The whole group seemed to handle the workout just fine today. The kid only barely broke 4:50 last year, but I’m thinking he’ll open his season next week sub 4:30. 10 years ago, that time would have won our league finals easily, this year, he might not even be top 5.

so?

cam myers ran 3:50 as a 17 year old
jakob ran 3:52 as a 17 year old

Sus