"On a recent workout: “We had seven 200s in 27 seconds, with about a minute 45 second rest. About an hour before the workout, I had weights. It was a tough workout with heat. It was the first time that we actually had this kind of heat this year with the humidity, but we made it through.”
I just wonder if the problem with alot of american distance runners is that they overtrain in their intervals. I would think seven 200s in 27 sec would be a piece of cake for Wariner.
Mono wrote:
"On a recent workout: “We had seven 200s in 27 seconds, with about a minute 45 second rest. About an hour before the workout, I had weights. It was a tough workout with heat. It was the first time that we actually had this kind of heat this year with the humidity, but we made it through.”
I just wonder if the problem with alot of american distance runners is that they overtrain in their intervals. I would think seven 200s in 27 sec would be a piece of cake for Wariner.
The fact that the above workout was tough for him is proof enough that he would not succeed as an 800 runner.
If he was doing leg weights he is an amateur. Leg weights should only be done 3 hours before a run minimum. Preferably 4 hous plus.
Patcan wrote:
If he was doing leg weights he is an amateur. Leg weights should only be done 3 hours before a run minimum. Preferably 4 hous plus.
yeah, he, his coach, and his mentor...all amateurs
as soon as you coach or win a gold medal at the olympics you can talk about what he is doing wrong.
Patcan wrote:
If he was doing leg weights he is an amateur. Leg weights should only be done 3 hours before a run minimum. Preferably 4 hous plus.
Maybe you should write to Clyde Hart and clue him in. I'm sure the world's greatest 400 meter coach would appreciate your input.
Patcan wrote:
If he was doing leg weights he is an amateur. Leg weights should only be done 3 hours before a run minimum. Preferably 4 hous plus.
HAHAHAHAHA! Good one!
The depth of knowledge on letsrun is amazing. Dirk has proof that he can't be a 800 runner and this dude knows more about training than an Olympic gold medalist.
Mono wrote:I would think seven 200s in 27 sec would be a piece of cake for Wariner.
Sounds like a typo or a misstatement to me, but I have no idea how 400 runners train.
FYI, it comes from RW:
http://www.runnersworld.com/cda/daily_news/0,5039,0-0-0-0----04-21-2006,00.htmlwebby wrote:
Mono wrote:I would think seven 200s in 27 sec would be a piece of cake for Wariner.Sounds like a typo or a misstatement to me, but I have no idea how 400 runners train.
FYI, it comes from RW:
http://www.runnersworld.com/cda/daily_news/0,5039,0-0-0-0----04-21-2006,00.html
its believable. Johnson often trained at paces slower than what he couldve ran in workouts. Its more about controlling your pace and having control and being consistant than acutally going for the fastest time.
thank you for that wrote:
Patcan wrote:If he was doing leg weights he is an amateur. Leg weights should only be done 3 hours before a run minimum. Preferably 4 hous plus.
Maybe you should write to Clyde Hart and clue him in. I'm sure the world's greatest 400 meter coach would appreciate your input.
Oh don't worry. You probably don't even need to write him. I heard Clyde reads the Letsrun forum
religiously when he's looking for new training ideas.
"F**kin' amateurs. I could get you a toe. I could get you a toe by this afternoon. With nailpolish."
There was an excellent article last year in "American Track and Field" (I think--it's the free magazine that gets sent to HS coaches every year) that was written by Clyde Hart about training at relatively slow paces. He outlined a bread and butter workout for his 400m types that involves 6-10x200m with about 90 seconds rest. The splits for the 200s were far from impressive for a world-class athlete. However, the repetition with the short rest (for sprinters, that's short rest) results in the last few reps being a race-feel simulation without tearing themselves apart neuromuscularly. Meanwhile, they're building speed endurance as well. For long sprinters, a workout like that is analogous to a tempo run for a distance runner.
Hart freely admitted in the article that he stumbled upon this training by accident rather than design, something about bad weather keeping his team off the outdoor track one year and he had to improvise under less-than-ideal conditions. It was a great article, can't find it online but maybe it's out there somewhere.