Makes you wonder about BTCs future as Flagsmith Elite (credit/ Coffee Club) takes root.
Makes you wonder about BTCs future as Flagsmith Elite (credit/ Coffee Club) takes root.
Charlie Lawrence just lit up Pete's DMs
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Makes you wonder about BTCs future as Flagsmith Elite (credit/ Coffee Club) takes root.
Old news , been knows for months now
Who is he still coaching?
Coaches are no longer needed. You need a Dr., a physiologist and an agent. Anyone can do long intervals short intervals and a tempo without someone holding a clipboard and a stopwatch
Perfect for Shelby
If you’re Pete, are you continuing to follow the training plans/concepts/strategies you’ve been employing for the last 4+ years, or are you basically going back to the drawing board? I mean, it’s kind of clear Nike dropped him bc of poor performance. We have examples of athletes who have left him and seen better success. Other athletes have stayed and injuries have practically destroyed their career. You’ve got to see that if you’re Pete, right?
Not surprising... once NOP/UAC went clean, no good results. Can't start your career that way. Pete was a D2 coach until Salazar brought him into the house. Back to D2!
runnerbean08 wrote:
Who is he still coaching?
See post #28
Once Smith becomes a full-time Nike coach, isn’t his main job to put Nike athletes on the podium? If so, maybe that will give pause to the ‘grandfathered-in’ non-Nike athletes he coaches, so maybe at least some of themwill seek out other alternative coaches that are at altitude.
Who ever thought the longest running Nike training group would be the US Army's WCAP?
xx NOP
xx OTC
xx BTC
xx UAC
Just wow.
(surprised another show company hasn't come to WCAP to make an offer... Nike has them fro a steal!)
themildrunmaster wrote:
If you’re Pete, are you continuing to follow the training plans/concepts/strategies you’ve been employing for the last 4+ years, or are you basically going back to the drawing board? I mean, it’s kind of clear Nike dropped him bc of poor performance. We have examples of athletes who have left him and seen better success. Other athletes have stayed and injuries have practically destroyed their career. You’ve got to see that if you’re Pete, right?
Fundamentally false. The vast majority of Julian's athletes improve year after year. Best I can tell, Hull is the only athlete that has improved after they left Julian (and she was running great when she was with him). His track record is exceptional if you cut through the negativity (and it was easy to hate on him when he was with Nike). Koko, Rowbury, Hull, S. Johnson, Donaghue, Plourde, Keegan, Jenkins, Osako, Engels, Brazier, R. Rogers, ... the list is quite extensive in his success. Athletes move on for various reasons, and I'm not sure who moved to Boulder, but his athletes have always spoke well of him and almost always got better year to year. Let's give the man a shot with this new endeavor. Nike is loyal to nobody.
do not know maybe wrote:
Once Smith becomes a full-time Nike coach, isn’t his main job to put Nike athletes on the podium? If so, maybe that will give pause to the ‘grandfathered-in’ non-Nike athletes he coaches, so maybe at least some of themwill seek out other alternative coaches that are at altitude.
His athletes will have to find a new coach if they don’t switch to Nike at the end of their contracts. That was recently reported.
Nike is like Trump... demands loyalty but will kick you to the curb eventually. Very few coaches or athletes retire in good standing with the Swoosh. Evil company.
Not quite true wrote:
Fundamentally false. The vast majority of Julian's athletes improve year after year. Best I can tell, Hull is the only athlete that has improved after they left Julian (and she was running great when she was with him). His track record is exceptional if you cut through the negativity (and it was easy to hate on him when he was with Nike). Koko, Rowbury, Hull, S. Johnson, Donaghue, Plourde, Keegan, Jenkins, Osako, Engels, Brazier, R. Rogers, ... the list is quite extensive in his success. Athletes move on for various reasons, and I'm not sure who moved to Boulder, but his athletes have always spoke well of him and almost always got better year to year. Let's give the man a shot with this new endeavor. Nike is loyal to nobody.
No one.
Osako is the only holdover from UAC's Portland days -- but he's a marathoner who lives in Japan.
UAC/Boulder's first recruit is Bailey Hertenstein/ex-Buff with a 15:10/5k pr.
Since Nike is no longer funding UAC, looks like the athletes Pete recruits will have to pay him. Since Bailey is a Nike athlete who's been training under Pete for a few months now, she may have a coach's stipend written into her contract. However, recruits from other brands may not be afforded such stipulations. Medical, physio, gym access would also have to be paid out-of-pocket, presumably.
Essentially -- or quite literally -- Team Boss v2.
themildrunmaster wrote:
If you’re Pete, are you continuing to follow the training plans/concepts/strategies you’ve been employing for the last 4+ years, or are you basically going back to the drawing board? I mean, it’s kind of clear Nike dropped him bc of poor performance. We have examples of athletes who have left him and seen better success. Other athletes have stayed and injuries have practically destroyed their career. You’ve got to see that if you’re Pete, right?
...or Nike didn't plan to be tanking financially the way they are and they already committed $ to Flag, Provo and Eugene before they realized they were going broke. You have examples of athletes who have left literally ANY coach and seen better success. You also have examples of many/most/almost all athletes who improved dramatically while running with Pete.
If Julian can secure adequate financial support and convince a handful of promising NCAA seniors to train with him, maybe he builds a successful group from the ground up the way Ritz did. Here's an incomplete list of prospects likely looking to go pro this summer:
Michaela Rose
Margot Appleton
Ceili McCabe
Chloe Thomas
Chloe Scrimgeour
Silan Ayyildiz
Klaudia Kazimierska
Kimberley May
Shannon Flockhart
Sophie O'Sullivan
Greta Karinauskaite
Parker Wolfe
Ethan Strand
Yaseen Abdalla
Adam Spencer
Liam Murphy
Casey Clinger
Elliot Cook
Nathan Green
Nathan Mountain
Sam Whitmarsh
Said Mechaal
If Pete pulls it together, consider Doris Lemngole and Hilda Olemomoi welcome additions to the group if the two are snubbed by more established teams when they turn pro in 2026 (or sooner).
Yalding what wrote:
Perfect for Shelby
She's welcome to him 👍️
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