About 265 ran a sub 14 last year between indoor and outdoor, but most in XC nats get there on a team.
About 265 ran a sub 14 last year between indoor and outdoor, but most in XC nats get there on a team.
About 102/256 in XC nats also had a sub 14 5k.
Nationals
Flexflexflex wrote:
About 102/256 in XC nats also had a sub 14 5k.
Correct, 102 did it in the prior indoor or outdoor d1 track seasons. Probably a bunch more international or prior years.
Splitting hairs. Either would get an "oh, cool for you" out of me.
That was me. I never made it to D1 NCAA track nationals but got to go to XC nationals twice as part of the team.
Flexflexflex wrote:
About 265 ran a sub 14 last year between indoor and outdoor, but most in XC nats get there on a team.
Times always trump, and individual qualified always trumps in xc or track. However these super shoe days sub 14 is happening at every meet
I don't know about the bigger "flex," but running with the team always trumped individual performances for me. If I had run D1, I would have preferred qualifying for XC nationals over a sub-14 5000m.
You don't really believe that. Habz or Centro?
Flexflexflex wrote:
About 265 ran a sub 14 last year between indoor and outdoor, but most in XC nats get there on a team.
Distance running is an individual sport, and you should want to run as fast as you possibly can.
Yeah yeah, because you are slow buddy
Going to the cross country nationals as a team would have been awesome. We got sixth in district two and how I envied the teams that made it. Back then, the outdoor season was so short in the Northeast it was tough to get a good time. Basically, we had Penn and the IC4As, which were huge back then.
big sponsor wrote:
You don't really believe that. Habz or Centro?
Believe that a fast time trumps a team birth to ncaa xc? Of course! And that super shoes have distorted times? Of course. There were more sub 4 miles the last few years than the last 20 years. College kids running sub 13 and not making top 10 at Olympics.
You said time always trump. You are in a tiny minority who woukd rather have 3:29 than have an Olympic Gold medal..
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big sponsor wrote:
Nationals
Disagree. Nationals is a cool personal experience (probably honestly a better one than running 13:58 to get 62nd at the BU Valentine), but the sub 14 is still more impressive in terms of raw ability. I know 14:30 dudes who got "lucky" as the 7th man on a good team and ran at Nationals. It's like the difference between a sub 4 mile and a sub 27 10k. The sub 4 will impress non-runners more, but people in the sport will know a 26:XX 10K is a different level of performance.
13s for 5k. Obviously
Everyone will be breaking 13:20 in a few years. Ten years from now you have the memory of nationals but your 13:58 will be like 14:30 today.