Actual women need to grow a pair and stop playing with men.
If the women themselves don’t stand up for what’s right, then why should anybody else care?
It’s their choice, and they have made it.
100 %. Men should stop jumoing around like simps solving "problems" of women they dont consider such
I don't like it but I agree. Women have practically laid out the red carpet for these dudes to walz right into womens spaces. Women invited this, and it's mostly women who continue to defend it. Maybe they're onto something. I've been told I'm an old fashioned guy with outdated thinking, so I'm gonna go ahead and sit this one out and see how all this gender stuff turns out.
Hayley Wickenheiser competed in full contact Hockey on a semi-pro men team. Not simply against one transgender woman in a volleyball game. Let's not minimize women ability here.
In 2003, Wickenheiser became the first woman to score a goal playing in a men's semi-professional league (for HC Salamat in Suomi-sarja, Finland's third-division league). Over the course of the two seasons, Wickenheiser played 22 games, scoring 1 goals and 3 assists.[21] Wickenheiser joined a European league to play professional hockey, as the game is more open and less physical than North American leagues. This attempt to play professional hockey was not an entirely smooth process, as Wickenheiser was initially slated to play in Italy, until the Italian Winter Sports Federation ruled that women were ineligible to play in a men's league. She also turned down an offer from Phil Esposito to play for the Cincinnati Cyclones of the ECHL. Finland's Hockey Federation unanimously supported letting women play in a men's league, allowing her to debut with HC Salamat in the Suomi-sarja, the third highest hockey league in Finland, on January 10, 2003.[22] Wickenheiser played briefly with Salamat in 2004. They had won promotion to Mestis, Finland's second tier of professional hockey, and this was not as good a fit for her. She left the team after ten games. In 2007, Wickenheiser had a week-long tryout contract with Swedish club IFK Arboga IK in the Swedish male third league. After two practice games, where Wickenheiser scored two goals in the first game, she was not offered a contract.[23] In 2008, Wickenheiser signed a one-year contract with Eskilstuna Linden, also in the Swedish men's third league
Hitting .343 against mediocre teams is hardly "dominating."
This is her 4th season in D1 and no one had any issue with her until Reduxx outed her back in April.
So you approve of men competing in exclusively female spaces?
No. I will leave that decision to (1) the sports governing body (FIVB and USA Volleyball in this case) and (2) women who play with and against this player.
Fleming is eligible, according to the policies of NCAA, FIVB and USA Volleyball. She has strong support from her current and former teammates. (I checked comments and "likes" on her social media account.) No one complained about her for three seasons at two D1 schools until Reduxx doxxed her.
There are far more important issues that NCAA volleyball players and their coaches actually worry about. An above average player at MWC is not one of them. It's none of my business to tell them what is important for them.
So you approve of men competing in exclusively female spaces?
No. I will leave that decision to (1) the sports governing body (FIVB and USA Volleyball in this case) and (2) women who play with and against this player.
Fleming is eligible, according to the policies of NCAA, FIVB and USA Volleyball. She has strong support from her current and former teammates. (I checked comments and "likes" on her social media account.) No one complained about her for three seasons at two D1 schools until Reduxx doxxed her.
There are far more important issues that NCAA volleyball players and their coaches actually worry about. An above average player at MWC is not one of them. It's none of my business to tell them what is important for them.
You complain no one had a problem before this person was on their radar, bemoaning that people only care when it’s a high profile athlete. Then you say we shouldn’t care because this athlete is too low profile.
You complain no one had a problem before this person was on their radar, bemoaning that people only care when it’s a high profile athlete. Then you say we shouldn’t care because this athlete is too low profile.
Huh? I am not "bemoaning" anything. I was simply stating the fact that no one had a problem with this player. Reduxx outed her, and all the anti-trans activists jumped on the story.
For some context, just read the responses on this thread.
https://x.com/riley_gaines_/status/1832160890583437764?s=46&t=abtR6yjOzpiYuwFgLsBI0g OK. This was an inappropriate link to share. My apologies. I just saw it blowing up
Men trying to play on women's sports teams is the most important issue the NCAA has to deal with. Hopefully, they will support women's sports and spaces and stop their misogyny.
It doesn't matter if he is dominating or not. He is taking a team spot, and maybe a scholarship, away from a woman.
D1 volleyball is a head count sport with a scholarship limit of 12. SJSU has 19 players on the roster, which is more than most teams. It's highly unlikely Fleming is taking away a roster spot from anyone.
We don't know if anyone had a problem with this man playing on the women's team because players and coaches are being penalized, fired even, for speaking out. The vast majority of female players in women's sports do not want men playing on their teams and changing in their locker rooms.
Men trying to play on women's sports teams is the most important issue the NCAA has to deal with. Hopefully, they will support women's sports and spaces and stop their misogyny.
According to who? The Great Cultural Warrior Riley Gaines who has appointed herself to be the expert on everything from the death of George Floyd to the recent school shooting in Georgia?
