His current best mile is 3:43.73. His 2 mile best is 7:54.10 which converts as 3:43.73 X2 + 26.64s
If we apply the same conversion to the 1500m and 3000m given they are very similar distances we get his current 1500m PB of 3:26.73 X2 + 26.64s = 7:20.10 = New World Record.
His current best mile is 3:43.73. His 2 mile best is 7:54.10 which converts as 3:43.73 X2 + 26.64s
If we apply the same conversion to the 1500m and 3000m given they are very similar distances we get his current 1500m PB of 3:26.73 X2 + 26.64s = 7:20.10 = New World Record.
Fair logic?
That's the formula I used so yes I agree. He might be a little faster now but I suppose we will find out!
His current best mile is 3:43.73. His 2 mile best is 7:54.10 which converts as 3:43.73 X2 + 26.64s
If we apply the same conversion to the 1500m and 3000m given they are very similar distances we get his current 1500m PB of 3:26.73 X2 + 26.64s = 7:20.10 = New World Record.
Fair logic?
That's the formula I used so yes I agree. He might be a little faster now but I suppose we will find out!
If Sisk can provide a similar level of pacing excellence as he did for the mile a month or two back it should be a very exciting race indeed.
His current best mile is 3:43.73. His 2 mile best is 7:54.10 which converts as 3:43.73 X2 + 26.64s
If we apply the same conversion to the 1500m and 3000m given they are very similar distances we get his current 1500m PB of 3:26.73 X2 + 26.64s = 7:20.10 = New World Record.
Fair logic?
Using a factor of 1.08 is less complicated, and is what T&F News uses for conversions. Using it for Ingebrigtsen’s 2-mile WR, comes to 7:19.
His current best mile is 3:43.73. His 2 mile best is 7:54.10 which converts as 3:43.73 X2 + 26.64s
If we apply the same conversion to the 1500m and 3000m given they are very similar distances we get his current 1500m PB of 3:26.73 X2 + 26.64s = 7:20.10 = New World Record.
Fair logic?
For sure the added term has to be smaller than 26.64 becausecthe distances are shorter.
His current best mile is 3:43.73. His 2 mile best is 7:54.10 which converts as 3:43.73 X2 + 26.64s
If we apply the same conversion to the 1500m and 3000m given they are very similar distances we get his current 1500m PB of 3:26.73 X2 + 26.64s = 7:20.10 = New World Record.
His current best mile is 3:43.73. His 2 mile best is 7:54.10 which converts as 3:43.73 X2 + 26.64s
If we apply the same conversion to the 1500m and 3000m given they are very similar distances we get his current 1500m PB of 3:26.73 X2 + 26.64s = 7:20.10 = New World Record.
Fair logic?
I guess that's a good way to get a ballpark figure?
Why I think he can do it is a little more simplistic. He ran under 7.22 for the final 3000m of the two mile and that was over 12 months ago. I don't think he has regressed in those 12 months so I see no reason why he couldn't in a pure 3000m run 1.5 seconds faster than that en-route effort.
Therefore we come to the same conclusion. I think the WR goes down in 4 days time!
His current best mile is 3:43.73. His 2 mile best is 7:54.10 which converts as 3:43.73 X2 + 26.64s
If we apply the same conversion to the 1500m and 3000m given they are very similar distances we get his current 1500m PB of 3:26.73 X2 + 26.64s = 7:20.10 = New World Record.
Fair logic?
I guess that's a good way to get a ballpark figure?
Why I think he can do it is a little more simplistic. He ran under 7.22 for the final 3000m of the two mile and that was over 12 months ago. I don't think he has regressed in those 12 months so I see no reason why he couldn't in a pure 3000m run 1.5 seconds faster than that en-route effort.
Therefore we come to the same conclusion. I think the WR goes down in 4 days time!
Good way?
Bolts 9.58 then indicates 200m potential of 45.80. He was little bit faster.
His current best mile is 3:43.73. His 2 mile best is 7:54.10 which converts as 3:43.73 X2 + 26.64s
If we apply the same conversion to the 1500m and 3000m given they are very similar distances we get his current 1500m PB of 3:26.73 X2 + 26.64s = 7:20.10 = New World Record.
Fair logic?
I guess that's a good way to get a ballpark figure?
Why I think he can do it is a little more simplistic. He ran under 7.22 for the final 3000m of the two mile and that was over 12 months ago. I don't think he has regressed in those 12 months so I see no reason why he couldn't in a pure 3000m run 1.5 seconds faster than that en-route effort.
Therefore we come to the same conclusion. I think the WR goes down in 4 days time!
It’s insane how times change. Before June last year we all thought this record would be a long shot. Now it’s the most likely to go down 🤣.
I guess that's a good way to get a ballpark figure?
Why I think he can do it is a little more simplistic. He ran under 7.22 for the final 3000m of the two mile and that was over 12 months ago. I don't think he has regressed in those 12 months so I see no reason why he couldn't in a pure 3000m run 1.5 seconds faster than that en-route effort.
Therefore we come to the same conclusion. I think the WR goes down in 4 days time!
Good way?
Bolts 9.58 then indicates 200m potential of 45.80. He was little bit faster.
It's stupid.
Yeah it's a good way to get a ballpark figure.
What's stupid is how you would apply a conversion factor for a MD/LD event to a sprint event. Totally different athletes physiology wise and a 3000m is 30 times longer than a 100m unless I'm mistaken.
It’s insane how times change. Before June last year we all thought this record would be a long shot. Now it’s the most likely to go down 🤣.
You are so right - I wasn't sure I would ever see this record being broken and now here we are. You look at the list of historically elite talent that almost seemed to just concede the record was too good and almost give up on it. Bekele, Geb couldn't break 7.25, Hicham ran as hard as I've ever seen him run on the circuit and was 2.5 seconds short and he never bothered again - it seemed inconceivable.
Like you said, I'd almost be shocked if it wasn't blow apart in 4 days time.
It’s insane how times change. Before June last year we all thought this record would be a long shot. Now it’s the most likely to go down 🤣.
You are so right - I wasn't sure I would ever see this record being broken and now here we are. You look at the list of historically elite talent that almost seemed to just concede the record was too good and almost give up on it. Bekele, Geb couldn't break 7.25, Hicham ran as hard as I've ever seen him run on the circuit and was 2.5 seconds short and he never bothered again - it seemed inconceivable.
Like you said, I'd almost be shocked if it wasn't blow apart in 4 days time.
But that just shows how naive some of you are. To say that you would “almost be shocked” if the 3000m record isn’t blown apart by Jakob in a few days reveals a colossal ignorance about the demands of world class racing. There is no guarantee that Jakob will ever put it all together on the right day. Jakob doesn’t have much margin for error, so I will do you a favor and advise you to not “almost be shocked” if Jakob does not blow apart the 3000m record. There is a reason it has stood for almost 28 years. Although it is true that Jakob has shown that he can break it, having the ability and doing it are two different things.
Bolts 9.58 then indicates 200m potential of 45.80. He was little bit faster.
It's stupid.
Yeah it's a good way to get a ballpark figure.
What's stupid is how you would apply a conversion factor for a MD/LD event to a sprint event. Totally different athletes physiology wise and a 3000m is 30 times longer than a 100m unless I'm mistaken.
So who/what is stupid?
Definitely not me.
You would use this same 26.64 seconds to convert to double distance up to what?
1000 to 2000 ?
800 to 1600 ?
400 to 800 ?
To add a constant term is stupid yes.
Divide 7:54.10 by 3:43.73 and use just this factor.
It’s insane how times change. Before June last year we all thought this record would be a long shot. Now it’s the most likely to go down 🤣.
You are so right - I wasn't sure I would ever see this record being broken and now here we are. You look at the list of historically elite talent that almost seemed to just concede the record was too good and almost give up on it. Bekele, Geb couldn't break 7.25, Hicham ran as hard as I've ever seen him run on the circuit and was 2.5 seconds short and he never bothered again - it seemed inconceivable.
Like you said, I'd almost be shocked if it wasn't blow apart in 4 days time.
You don’t think this can turn into a tactical race as soon as the rabbits are off? When Jakob ran the 2 mile world best in Paris, he didn’t have that much competition. Here he can turn into the pacer, I’m afraid, and be passed in the last 50.
His current best mile is 3:43.73. His 2 mile best is 7:54.10 which converts as 3:43.73 X2 + 26.64s
If we apply the same conversion to the 1500m and 3000m given they are very similar distances we get his current 1500m PB of 3:26.73 X2 + 26.64s = 7:20.10 = New World Record.
Fair logic?
I guess that's a good way to get a ballpark figure?
Why I think he can do it is a little more simplistic. He ran under 7.22 for the final 3000m of the two mile and that was over 12 months ago. I don't think he has regressed in those 12 months so I see no reason why he couldn't in a pure 3000m run 1.5 seconds faster than that en-route effort.
Therefore we come to the same conclusion. I think the WR goes down in 4 days time!
Imagine not only it being broken, but being broken or approached by multiple people at the same time. On a record that is 28 years old and obviously aided by doping. On the back of Tadej Pogacar dominating two grand tours this year with record speeds. Nothing to see here folks, just technology changes!
I think we are going to be in for something huge in the near future. Some major bust or discovery. The next super drug appears to be out there.
You are so right - I wasn't sure I would ever see this record being broken and now here we are. You look at the list of historically elite talent that almost seemed to just concede the record was too good and almost give up on it. Bekele, Geb couldn't break 7.25, Hicham ran as hard as I've ever seen him run on the circuit and was 2.5 seconds short and he never bothered again - it seemed inconceivable.
Like you said, I'd almost be shocked if it wasn't blow apart in 4 days time.
But that just shows how naive some of you are. To say that you would “almost be shocked” if the 3000m record isn’t blown apart by Jakob in a few days reveals a colossal ignorance about the demands of world class racing. There is no guarantee that Jakob will ever put it all together on the right day. Jakob doesn’t have much margin for error, so I will do you a favor and advise you to not “almost be shocked” if Jakob does not blow apart the 3000m record. There is a reason it has stood for almost 28 years. Although it is true that Jakob has shown that he can break it, having the ability and doing it are two different things.
It was always no question, that Komen's Mark was behind the 1500m and 5000m marks.
El G has had one badly paced attempt and was just 2.42s away. And he was much better over 1500m. Geb and Bekele has had there strongest distance between 5000m and 10000m. 3000 was way too short for them.
You are so right - I wasn't sure I would ever see this record being broken and now here we are. You look at the list of historically elite talent that almost seemed to just concede the record was too good and almost give up on it. Bekele, Geb couldn't break 7.25, Hicham ran as hard as I've ever seen him run on the circuit and was 2.5 seconds short and he never bothered again - it seemed inconceivable.
Like you said, I'd almost be shocked if it wasn't blow apart in 4 days time.
All you need to do is watch Bekele’s 7:25 & 7:26 runs on YouTube to know he could definitely have smashed 7:25 if it had been a real priority.
As for El Guerrouj, IIRC he got like 1K worth of pacing at 2:29+ and then ran ~2:25 for the second K trying too aggressively to get back on WR schedule, so yes he was hurting in the last 800 and “only” ran 7:23.09 the one time he ever made an attempt.
7:20.67 has always been very strong but not as unassailable as the top-list at face value makes it seem.