can’t even say “it’s the shoes” because they existed in 2021.
wow!
This is the definition of "fake news".
You should probably add the context, unless you just want to be a prick and cherry-pick stats.
Before 2021, she quit the sport for a number of years, and didn't start running again until 2021.
So that 4:48 was basically untrained.
It's still a staggering progression, but the way you've presented it is incredibly disingenuous.
so a 3.52 runner (at 30) can only do 4.48 “untrained” (at 27)? also, i doubt someone who used to be a serious runner, would take time off and then come back and compete “untrained”.
can’t even say “it’s the shoes” because they existed in 2021.
wow!
This was probably copied from her page on world athletics, but it's full of errors. Go look at her "power of 10" page to get the real numbers.
In 2021 she did not run any 1500m races at all. Just like in 2018, 2019 and 2020. The 4.48.18 listed by World Athletics was set by a different Georgia Bell. An - at the time - 15 year old girl who ran that time at the English U15 championships.
In 2022 she still did not run any 1500m races, but she did do a mile race which had a 1500m split of 4:16. The 4:42.49 is again from the much younger girl who happens to have the same name.
In 2023 she did actually run some 1500m races. All very low key, but her best time was 4:06.20. World Athletics doesn't list this as the race was mixed.
So the only one of you times which is correct is the final one. Not a very good basis for judging anyone's progression.
Her progress this year is certainly remarkable and I can understand why there will be some raised eyebrows. But any discussion should at least start with getting the basics correct.
can’t even say “it’s the shoes” because they existed in 2021.
wow!
This was probably copied from her page on world athletics, but it's full of errors. Go look at her "power of 10" page to get the real numbers.
In 2021 she did not run any 1500m races at all. Just like in 2018, 2019 and 2020. The 4.48.18 listed by World Athletics was set by a different Georgia Bell. An - at the time - 15 year old girl who ran that time at the English U15 championships.
In 2022 she still did not run any 1500m races, but she did do a mile race which had a 1500m split of 4:16. The 4:42.49 is again from the much younger girl who happens to have the same name.
In 2023 she did actually run some 1500m races. All very low key, but her best time was 4:06.20. World Athletics doesn't list this as the race was mixed.
So the only one of you times which is correct is the final one. Not a very good basis for judging anyone's progression.
Her progress this year is certainly remarkable and I can understand why there will be some raised eyebrows. But any discussion should at least start with getting the basics correct.
What were her PRs before she retired and for how was she out of the sport?
In 2008 - at the age of 14 - she ran 2:08.81 and 4:35.91, but then got steadily slower from 2009 - 2012 and did not run at all in 2013. This might have been injury related, I don't know.
In 2014 she started being coached by Trevor Painter (who was coaching Jenny Meadows at the time) and improved significantly, setting new PBs of 2:03.38 and 4:18.75.
Then in 2015 she went to Berkley, but during her time there she set no new PBs at all. Her final NCAA race was in May 2017, and after that her next recorded track race of any kind was in 2022.
can’t even say “it’s the shoes” because they existed in 2021.
wow!
This was probably copied from her page on world athletics, but it's full of errors. Go look at her "power of 10" page to get the real numbers.
In 2021 she did not run any 1500m races at all. Just like in 2018, 2019 and 2020. The 4.48.18 listed by World Athletics was set by a different Georgia Bell. An - at the time - 15 year old girl who ran that time at the English U15 championships.
In 2022 she still did not run any 1500m races, but she did do a mile race which had a 1500m split of 4:16. The 4:42.49 is again from the much younger girl who happens to have the same name.
In 2023 she did actually run some 1500m races. All very low key, but her best time was 4:06.20. World Athletics doesn't list this as the race was mixed.
So the only one of you times which is correct is the final one. Not a very good basis for judging anyone's progression.
Her progress this year is certainly remarkable and I can understand why there will be some raised eyebrows. But any discussion should at least start with getting the basics correct.
In all seriousness, with that sort of recent progression it seems possible she could drop a few more seconds soon to set rhe world record.
2:08 at 14. How many girls do that? I am guessing a lot more than run 3:52. And 3:52 off of inconsistent training and a short buildup. It's like saying a man who ran 1:56 at 14 should be able to run 3:28 at 30 if he just trains for a couple years. 3:52 is stratospheric. It is at the far edge of possibility. The explanation is that she was in the wrong sport, she is a late bloomer, she was cross training effectively and hard, and this is her lifetime peak. So I've talked myself into it being possible, because I know how poor coaching and training can be at building an athlete, and she may have found that after college. I'd like to know about her strength and flexibility training for the past eight years and copy it. Something must be very different about her body now.
This was probably copied from her page on world athletics, but it's full of errors. Go look at her "power of 10" page to get the real numbers.
In 2021 she did not run any 1500m races at all. Just like in 2018, 2019 and 2020. The 4.48.18 listed by World Athletics was set by a different Georgia Bell. An - at the time - 15 year old girl who ran that time at the English U15 championships.
In 2022 she still did not run any 1500m races, but she did do a mile race which had a 1500m split of 4:16. The 4:42.49 is again from the much younger girl who happens to have the same name.
In 2023 she did actually run some 1500m races. All very low key, but her best time was 4:06.20. World Athletics doesn't list this as the race was mixed.
So the only one of you times which is correct is the final one. Not a very good basis for judging anyone's progression.
Her progress this year is certainly remarkable and I can understand why there will be some raised eyebrows. But any discussion should at least start with getting the basics correct.
In all seriousness, with that sort of recent progression it seems possible she could drop a few more seconds soon to set rhe world record.
we shouldn’t be surprised if she breaks 3.40 next year. i mean, it’s only 13 seconds faster so not as impressive as this year
can’t even say “it’s the shoes” because they existed in 2021.
wow!
These are always stupid and mean nothing. Only stupid people don't care about context or external factors. You have no idea what her training load was, who she was being trained by, whether she was injured or even taking the training seriously. You have no information at all about the millions of other factors that determine whether she was running fast or slow and certainly not enough to make a valid comparison, yet you try to make some meaningful connection between these numbers. To sit there and think that this woman just decided to come back into the sport and start doping is absurd.
You need to read up on her background before making such comments. She was constantly injured and had to get surgery on her foot. As often the case, NCAA overtraining ruined. She become an excellent cyclist and still does 100 MPW on the bike to XT for running.