I keep seeing this same sentiment on the board that Jakob somehow does not have the kick Hocker or Kerr do, but I don’t really see any evidence of this. He kicks almost as fast in faster 1500 and 3k races.
Why doesn’t he just take the lead with 600 to go instead of 1500m to go? I believe he can win this way when healthy. He can close in 52 just like Hocker and Kerr. His confidence is his own worst enemy
He was admittedly overconfident in leading gun to gun in the 1500m, and he obviously won't make the same mistake of underestimating his opponents ever again.
People here just don't seem to get that there's a fine line between believing in one's self and being overconfident. Anytime ppl on the internet see someone actually believe in themselves, they automatically assume that that person is trying to be arrogant when they're really just trying to navigate that fine line in order to become the best.
But you can't be the best if you don't believe in yourself to an some extreme degree, esp. in a ultra competitive environment. I don't even look at Jakob vs Josh as a rivalry; really, it's just 2 very talented guys in an ultra competitive environment and both wanna be seen as the best above all. How would you expect them to act towards each other? Like best buddies?
So you always have to risk coming across as arrogant. Hocker's statement that no one in the US could beat him if he was healthy might've seemed arrogant to many ppl, but look at what he gave us 🤷🏽♂️
I keep seeing this same sentiment on the board that Jakob somehow does not have the kick Hocker or Kerr do, but I don’t really see any evidence of this. He kicks almost as fast in faster 1500 and 3k races.
Why doesn’t he just take the lead with 600 to go instead of 1500m to go? I believe he can win this way when healthy. He can close in 52 just like Hocker and Kerr. His confidence is his own worst enemy
I keep seeing this same sentiment on the board that Jakob somehow does not have the kick Hocker or Kerr do, but I don’t really see any evidence of this. He kicks almost as fast in faster 1500 and 3k races.
Why doesn’t he just take the lead with 600 to go instead of 1500m to go? I believe he can win this way when healthy. He can close in 52 just like Hocker and Kerr. His confidence is his own worst enemy
How would Jakob beat Hocker with that strategy?
he might not haven beaten Hocker, (Hell, even El G only won one 1500m Olympic gold in his entire career), but that at least would have given him a far better chance. Like 0%>15%.
I keep seeing this same sentiment on the board that Jakob somehow does not have the kick Hocker or Kerr do, but I don’t really see any evidence of this. He kicks almost as fast in faster 1500 and 3k races.
Why doesn’t he just take the lead with 600 to go instead of 1500m to go? I believe he can win this way when healthy. He can close in 52 just like Hocker and Kerr. His confidence is his own worst enemy
How would Jakob beat Hocker with that strategy?
Maybe thats true that hocker still beats him but think about it like this: if he is at the front with 600m to go off a relatively slower ish pace 1:54 at 800m without actually wasting his energy leading or unnecessary surges, everybody is going to be bunched up behind him, and he gets to dictate the pace on the final lap without letting anyone pass him. If he is 100% while doing this everybody will have to fight each other to actually pass him, his chances for a medal go way up.
What Jakob is doing in 5000m is what Hocker and kerr are doing to him in 1500m.
I don’t think it’s as clear cut as that. Tactics and positioning have a huge influence as well. If we go by 800 speed, are they really that much faster than Inngebrigtsen. Jakob also has shown potential to run 12:35 anyways while having 3:26 speed so does that matter too?
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What Jakob is doing in 5000m is what Hocker and kerr are doing to him in 1500m.
I don’t think it’s as clear cut as that. Tactics and positioning have a huge influence as well. If we go by 800 speed, are they really that much faster than Inngebrigtsen. Jakob also has shown potential to run 12:35 anyways while having 3:26 speed so does that matter too?
People have this misconception that kicking in the 1500m is about pure 800m speed. It's not. It's about ACCELERATION over the last 100m. Hocker has greatest of all time acceleration.
The 800m is too long to be an indicator of kicking speed. If it was just about 800m speed, Kessler would be the best kicker in the US.
I don’t think it’s as clear cut as that. Tactics and positioning have a huge influence as well. If we go by 800 speed, are they really that much faster than Inngebrigtsen. Jakob also has shown potential to run 12:35 anyways while having 3:26 speed so does that matter too?
People have this misconception that kicking in the 1500m is about pure 800m speed. It's not. It's about ACCELERATION over the last 100m. Hocker has greatest of all time acceleration.
The 800m is too long to be an indicator of kicking speed. If it was just about 800m speed, Kessler would be the best kicker in the US.
It would be much closer than the results we got though, that is for sure.
He was admittedly overconfident in leading gun to gun in the 1500m, and he obviously won't make the same mistake of underestimating his opponents ever again.
People here just don't seem to get that there's a fine line between believing in one's self and being overconfident. Anytime ppl on the internet see someone actually believe in themselves, they automatically assume that that person is trying to be arrogant when they're really just trying to navigate that fine line in order to become the best.
But you can't be the best if you don't believe in yourself to an some extreme degree, esp. in a ultra competitive environment. I don't even look at Jakob vs Josh as a rivalry; really, it's just 2 very talented guys in an ultra competitive environment and both wanna be seen as the best above all. How would you expect them to act towards each other? Like best buddies?
So you always have to risk coming across as arrogant. Hocker's statement that no one in the US could beat him if he was healthy might've seemed arrogant to many ppl, but look at what he gave us 🤷🏽♂️
Very well said.
Champions believe in themselves more than anyone else does and border on arrogance because that’s what’s needed to push your physical limits. For the body to achieve, the mind must come first.
I keep seeing this same sentiment on the board that Jakob somehow does not have the kick Hocker or Kerr do, but I don’t really see any evidence of this. He kicks almost as fast in faster 1500 and 3k races.
Why doesn’t he just take the lead with 600 to go instead of 1500m to go? I believe he can win this way when healthy. He can close in 52 just like Hocker and Kerr. His confidence is his own worst enemy
How would Jakob beat Hocker with that strategy?
If he didn't have the balls to the walls strategy he probably snags the bronze but he doesn't have the foot speed of Kerr or Hocker to get in 200m sprint with those two and win the gold.