He said " he felt so great he couldn't believe how fast he was, after the first lap he became too eager, and finished with no legs ".
He did back off the pace on the second lap...he went out to fast first lap. IMO this was bad tactics to begin with. He should have waited to take the lead at 500m and slowly ratched down the pace, leaving himself with plenty to kick last 200m. might not have worked though.
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“It was the race I expected. It all came down to how I was feeling, how much I’m able to recover from the previous races. I felt extremely good, and that’s why I pushed the pace a little too hard. "I saw that I got a starting gap, and I was a little bit eager. Of course, it’s not what I was hoping for. I can only blame myself. It’s a difficult game, balancing your energy. It’s difficult to get 100% of that. “It’s not as fun if I’m not able to get the results I want. But the others did a great race. This was a risk I was going to take.”
He said " he felt so great he couldn't believe how fast he was, after the first lap he became too eager, and finished with no legs ".
He did back off the pace on the second lap...he went out to fast first lap. IMO this was bad tactics to begin with. He should have waited to take the lead at 500m and slowly ratched down the pace, leaving himself with plenty to kick last 200m. might not have worked though.
Definitely. He should've listened to us. That's the situation Roger Bannister was in when he broke 4, felt great and felt the first lap+ was incredibly slow but because he was paced he kept it in rather than blowing up.
He said " he felt so great he couldn't believe how fast he was, after the first lap he became too eager, and finished with no legs ".
He did back off the pace on the second lap...he went out to fast first lap. IMO this was bad tactics to begin with. He should have waited to take the lead at 500m and slowly ratched down the pace, leaving himself with plenty to kick last 200m. might not have worked though.
If he had slowed the pace he would have gotten outkicked by the three medalists and probably Hobbs Kessler too.
Copy pasting the full translation from another poster:
“It was the race I expected. It all came down to how I was feeling, how much I’m able to recover from the previous races. I felt extremely good, and that’s why I pushed the pace a little too hard. "I saw that I got a starting gap, and I was a little bit eager. Of course, it’s not what I was hoping for. I can only blame myself. It’s a difficult game, balancing your energy. It’s difficult to get 100% of that. “It’s not as fun if I’m not able to get the results I want. But the others did a great race. This was a risk I was going to take.”
He did back off the pace on the second lap...he went out to fast first lap. IMO this was bad tactics to begin with. He should have waited to take the lead at 500m and slowly ratched down the pace, leaving himself with plenty to kick last 200m. might not have worked though.
If he had slowed the pace he would have gotten outkicked by the three medalists and probably Hobbs Kessler too.
He needs to find a certain sweet spot where he doesn't overtire himself, but also takes the energy out of his opponents. I think gradually and continually increasing the pace after the first 600-800m is probably the best way to do that. Going out in front in 54 seconds is not.
If he had slowed the pace he would have gotten outkicked by the three medalists and probably Hobbs Kessler too.
He needs to find a certain sweet spot where he doesn't overtire himself, but also takes the energy out of his opponents. I think gradually and continually increasing the pace after the first 600-800m is probably the best way to do that. Going out in front in 54 seconds is not.
Yeah, but if this race was a second slower he could have got outkicked by even more people. Maybe he should have waited a lap to go to the front, but the longer he waits the harder it is to squeeze the kick out of everyone. The field is just more competitive than about any time in history. Whereas El G had a couple other guys to deal with, Jakob has like 6-8.
I think there’s no reason to believe he can’t front run a winning 1500. He just can’t go out on 3:25.5 pace while everyone else sits behind him running perfectly even splits.
56-56-55-40 is 3:27.xx and is probably easier on him and harder on everyone else than what he did
LetsRun posters would have called his tactics stupid in any outcome other than him winning, so I was peeved to see that several times on the live thread. Lets it go slow for any length of time and gets outkicked: stupid, he should have made it a 3:26/3:27 race from the gun. Tries to make it a 3:26/3:27 race from the gun: stupid, he served as a pacer and wasted energy. I personally don’t think he could have outright won today no matter how he played it; he probably could have medaled, but hindsight is 20/20.
It was similar in the men’s 10k when I saw people ask “Wtf were the Ethiopians thinking??” I’m sure we’ll hear the same thing if they don’t set a fast pace in the 5k (or if they do).
If you’re trying to blast a 3:26/3:27 to kill off all challengers you have to run 55s, so 54.9+ at 400 isn’t that awful a misjudgment. Of course it’d be better to err on the cautious side through the first lap, but again, hindsight…
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I was 100% sure he would win it, but he couldn’t handle the pressure. While he did a 54 opening lap, Hocker held back just enough to get an opening pace he could handle.
if Jakob had ran 56 first and 54 second lap then maybe he would have made it, luring the field to a pace to hot for them.
Mad respect to all medalist for puttting in the effort to follow Jakob, hopefully this keeps him motivated to stick with the 1500 until LA
He needs to find a certain sweet spot where he doesn't overtire himself, but also takes the energy out of his opponents. I think gradually and continually increasing the pace after the first 600-800m is probably the best way to do that. Going out in front in 54 seconds is not.
Yeah, but if this race was a second slower he could have got outkicked by even more people. Maybe he should have waited a lap to go to the front, but the longer he waits the harder it is to squeeze the kick out of everyone. The field is just more competitive than about any time in history. Whereas El G had a couple other guys to deal with, Jakob has like 6-8.
You guys are overthinking this. He is not going to be too competitive in global 1500 championships with the likes of Kerr and Hocker who could mow him down at will. He's got one massive single gear and he needs all of the 1500 plus pacers to run those fast times, but otherwise he's just not a supremely competitive racer at this distance.
I think there’s no reason to believe he can’t front run a winning 1500. He just can’t go out on 3:25.5 pace while everyone else sits behind him running perfectly even splits.
56-56-55-40 is 3:27.xx and is probably easier on him and harder on everyone else than what he did
Come on man, stop your BS. If you were good enough to win gold front running, you jolly well tolerate 54.8 opening 400m especially since you claim you are the GOAT, have the fastest season's best and PB and will win blindfolded any day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have seen faster openings by El G in far slower shoes and poorer track surfaces like 54.4, 54.5, 54.2 and even 53.8 and these were 3:26-3:29 races with bad shoes and bad tracks!!!
I was 100% sure he would win it, but he couldn’t handle the pressure. While he did a 54 opening lap, Hocker held back just enough to get an opening pace he could handle.
if Jakob had ran 56 first and 54 second lap then maybe he would have made it, luring the field to a pace to hot for them.
Mad respect to all medalist for puttting in the effort to follow Jakob, hopefully this keeps him motivated to stick with the 1500 until LA