During the broadcast, they mentioned Nuguse's HR at the starting line. How did they have access to that info? What's the device he was wearing on his right forearm?
They did this a year or two ago. just something for the audience to look at during the race. I noticed it was functioning and showed a HR of 0bpm with 600 to go. also thought 130 was high for standing on the starting line
HR data is absolutely meaningless without knowing a person's individual data points (max, threshold, resting, etc).
It's a gimmick, but not a bad gimmick, and not meaningless. If they keep someone's HR on the screen the whole race, you'll know (close enough) the max HR and can see 1500 pace HR at 3:3x for that particular athlete, and how it changes with observed effort/pace. Not all HR data has to be thought of in terms of how useful it is in training for you, the spectator.
HR data is absolutely meaningless without knowing a person's individual data points (max, threshold, resting, etc).
Kara Goucher can try to tell me that 128 bpm is low for someone standing around, but she'd be an absolute numpty to do so.
On a typical easy "run" (that's right, not just standing still), my heart rate isn't getting above 125bpm.
it's all relative.
i remember before my first marathon, standing at the line, my HR was 160! and it stayed there for the first half of the race. always wondered if that kind of killed my final time.
I also drank an xl coffee from Tim Horton's a couple hours prior, which is not a typical pre-run routine. Live and learn!
HR data is absolutely meaningless without knowing a person's individual data points (max, threshold, resting, etc).
It's a gimmick, but not a bad gimmick, and not meaningless. If they keep someone's HR on the screen the whole race, you'll know (close enough) the max HR and can see 1500 pace HR at 3:3x for that particular athlete, and how it changes with observed effort/pace. Not all HR data has to be thought of in terms of how useful it is in training for you, the spectator.
yup. i find it at least slightly interesting, if nothing else.
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They did this a year or two ago. just something for the audience to look at during the race. I noticed it was functioning and showed a HR of 0bpm with 600 to go. also thought 130 was high for standing on the starting line
Is 130 high on the start line? I don't have anything that measures my HR but when I stand on the start line my heart is pumpin
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It's not your 130 bpm per se that is the indicator of your fitness and health level. It's the variability of your heart rate from 130 to 90 and back to 130 and back to 110 and up to 150 and back to 90 and back to 120 in INSTANTANEOUS OR IMMEDIATE fashion with no time delay or negligible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HR data is absolutely meaningless without knowing a person's individual data points (max, threshold, resting, etc).
Kara Goucher can try to tell me that 128 bpm is low for someone standing around, but she'd be an absolute numpty to do so.
On a typical easy "run" (that's right, not just standing still), my heart rate isn't getting above 125bpm.
it's all relative.
i remember before my first marathon, standing at the line, my HR was 160! and it stayed there for the first half of the race. always wondered if that kind of killed my final time.
I also drank an xl coffee from Tim Horton's a couple hours prior, which is not a typical pre-run routine. Live and learn!
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HR data is absolutely meaningless without knowing a person's individual data points (max, threshold, resting, etc).
Kara Goucher can try to tell me that 128 bpm is low for someone standing around, but she'd be an absolute numpty to do so.
On a typical easy "run" (that's right, not just standing still), my heart rate isn't getting above 125bpm.
Correct. 131bpm, assuming a max of somewhere from 190-210 (which is what it showed) would be extremely high for anyone standing around, let alone a 3:43 miler. That device does not work.
And even if it did, saying that "OH well he was only at 187bpm with 200m to go means he wasn't going all out" is nonsense too. His max HR could very well be 190bpm. I'm not saying he was all-out, just that you cannot use HR to infer anything in a 1,500m race. It's run at an effort that is well over 100% of VO2 max.
It's a gimmick, but not a bad gimmick, and not meaningless. If they keep someone's HR on the screen the whole race, you'll know (close enough) the max HR and can see 1500 pace HR at 3:3x for that particular athlete, and how it changes with observed effort/pace. Not all HR data has to be thought of in terms of how useful it is in training for you, the spectator.
yup. i find it at least slightly interesting, if nothing else.
I agree. It's an interesting piece of information for the spectator.
He's not wearing anything. With these new 8K TVs, you can actually see a person's chest move with each heartbeat. Some intern in the NBC control room is just sitting there counting.
yup. i find it at least slightly interesting, if nothing else.
I agree. It's an interesting piece of information for the spectator.
I take it with a grain of salt because of my own experience with my Apple Watch. Often, my HR will double for a short period of time at the beginning of a workout whether it be weight training or cardio. So I’ll see a reading of 160 when I know my HR is 80.
I see their speed readings fluctuate a lot too. They were hyping 14 mph in the broadcast during the first 1500m heat 😂 at one point.
So a robust data stream comes at the viewer, but not all of it is meaningful.
HR data is absolutely meaningless without knowing a person's individual data points (max, threshold, resting, etc).
Kara Goucher can try to tell me that 128 bpm is low for someone standing around, but she'd be an absolute numpty to do so.
On a typical easy "run" (that's right, not just standing still), my heart rate isn't getting above 125bpm.
Correct. 131bpm, assuming a max of somewhere from 190-210 (which is what it showed) would be extremely high for anyone standing around, let alone a 3:43 miler. That device does not work.
I don't know about that. I always try to start sessions with a HR around 120bpm. I don't wear my watch during races, but I operate on the same principle. Being warmed up for me includes not having to start a race at 60bpm.
They did this a year or two ago. just something for the audience to look at during the race. I noticed it was functioning and showed a HR of 0bpm with 600 to go. also thought 130 was high for standing on the starting line
130 does seem very high for being on the starting line.
Someone else in the field (iirc Sahlman) also had a heart rate monitor, but his heart rate at the start wasn’t mentioned.
I certainly would not describe a fully warmed up athlete on the start line of a major race as “just standing around.” I wouldn’t be surprised if Nuguse’s heart rate at the start was lower than most or all of his competitors.
Someone else in the field (iirc Sahlman) also had a heart rate monitor, but his heart rate at the start wasn’t mentioned.
I certainly would not describe a fully warmed up athlete on the start line of a major race as “just standing around.” I wouldn’t be surprised if Nuguse’s heart rate at the start was lower than most or all of his competitors.
I don't think the announcers mentioned Sahlman's, but they showed it on the screen and as I recall it was very similar to Nuguse's both on the starting line (around 130) and during the race (around 190).