Times slightly rounded. I run 45 mpw and, comparably, place slightly better in the 3000 than the mile but enjoy the mile more. What's my current best event and which event should I focus on next year?
Everything’s pretty close, so hoenstly you should just focus on what you think is the most fun. If you really want to compare though, I’d say from best to worst mile, 3k, 800, 5000k. Personally, I think 3k and 800 are almost interchangeable.
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you're leaving out your age/context, because it sounds like the 4:15 and 8:30 might be the rounded metric races and not miles, which is dozens of seconds difference.
you should also have your own clue which event is more competitive. medals/points won, finals made, state progression, conference progression. why are you asking me where you win your medals?
Depends on your age and running experience to some extent. Like, 1:55 might be better than 15:00 for a 23 year old who’s been running for 10 years, but there are way more 16 year old kids who can run 1:55 than 15:00 and I would expect the 1:55/15:00 high schooler to run the longer distances in college.
you're leaving out your age/context, because it sounds like the 4:15 and 8:30 might be the rounded metric races and not miles, which is dozens of seconds difference.
you should also have your own clue which event is more competitive. medals/points won, finals made, state progression, conference progression. why are you asking me where you win your medals?
4:15/8:30 are pretty obviously 3k and either 1600 or mile, so a total of 0-1.8 seconds difference.
i mean, there can be dual or tri meet flukes, no one shows up, 5 people run, you win. but in a well attended meet, especially something like conference, but also like invitationals with a bunch of teams, where your outcome is likely not about attendance, where anything you get is beating tens of people, which one does you better? where do you get your medals most of the time? roll with that.
you're leaving out your age/context, because it sounds like the 4:15 and 8:30 might be the rounded metric races and not miles, which is dozens of seconds difference.
you should also have your own clue which event is more competitive. medals/points won, finals made, state progression, conference progression. why are you asking me where you win your medals?
4:15/8:30 are pretty obviously 3k and either 1600 or mile, so a total of 0-1.8 seconds difference.
no, dude said he ran 3k. HS kids don't usually run the full k/half k races, eg 1500/3000, they run 1600/3200. that suggests college or foreign.
plus, i seriously doubt someone runs an 8:30 "3000" but a 4:15 "1600." not only would you be in either HS or college distances, the pacing math problem should be obvious. he's faster the longer he goes? impossible.
in fact, skeptical of the times at all. no one runs a double distance with no fade. he is implying he runs same pace at whatever two races are in the middle. 1500 or 1600 increments. no one does that. you lose time the second half. maybe some olympian negative splits. a kid's PR is not going to be just as fast out near 2 mi as at 1 mi.
4:15/8:30 are pretty obviously 3k and either 1600 or mile, so a total of 0-1.8 seconds difference.
no, dude said he ran 3k. HS kids don't usually run the full k/half k races, eg 1500/3000, they run 1600/3200. that suggests college or foreign.
plus, i seriously doubt someone runs an 8:30 "3000" but a 4:15 "1600." not only would you be in either HS or college distances, the pacing math problem should be obvious. he's faster the longer he goes? impossible.
in fact, skeptical of the times at all. no one runs a double distance with no fade. he is implying he runs same pace at whatever two races are in the middle. 1500 or 1600 increments. no one does that. you lose time the second half. maybe some olympian negative splits. a kid's PR is not going to be just as fast out near 2 mi as at 1 mi.
"obviously."
What are you talking about? The 8:30 is a 3k, we agree, and the 4:15 is either 1600 or mile, probably the mile for the reason you mentioned that I can’t think of any states that run 1600 and 3k for U.S. high schools. Most likely a college kid stating mile and 3k times which happen to be of very comparable strength.
“plus, i seriously doubt someone runs an 8:30 "3000" but a 4:15 "1600." not only would you be in either HS or college distances, the pacing math problem should be obvious. he's faster the longer he goes? impossible.”
and then like i said, 1500 vs. 1600 is a time difference, 30 seconds or so. 3000 vs. 3200 double that or more.
a 4:15 mile is sub 4 1500 and might make you pretty competitive D3 and make a D1. a 4:15 1500 is D3 stuff, ie, you finish closer to 4:45. and he nudged us towards that conclusion by saying the latter time is 3k. setting aside i don't believe the middle numbers or now necessarily anything, if one runs a 1:55 but then bloats to high-4 mile numbers given as 1500/3000 times, fairly obviously implications where to nudge the kid.
i am also fairly skeptical if he drifts towards 5 for "a" mile that he does 15 for a 5k. common sense. i know some pace metronomes who aren't fast for a mile but their value is usually at XC and that 5k doesn't track from the shorter times.
and then like i said, 1500 vs. 1600 is a time difference, 30 seconds or so. 3000 vs. 3200 double that or more.
a 4:15 mile is sub 4 1500 and might make you pretty competitive D3 and make a D1. a 4:15 1500 is D3 stuff, ie, you finish closer to 4:45. and he nudged us towards that conclusion by saying the latter time is 3k. setting aside i don't believe the middle numbers or now necessarily anything, if one runs a 1:55 but then bloats to high-4 mile numbers given as 1500/3000 times, fairly obviously implications where to nudge the kid.
i am also fairly skeptical if he drifts towards 5 for "a" mile that he does 15 for a 5k. common sense. i know some pace metronomes who aren't fast for a mile but their value is usually at XC and that 5k doesn't track from the shorter times.
no, dude said he ran 3k. HS kids don't usually run the full k/half k races, eg 1500/3000, they run 1600/3200. that suggests college or foreign.
plus, i seriously doubt someone runs an 8:30 "3000" but a 4:15 "1600." not only would you be in either HS or college distances, the pacing math problem should be obvious. he's faster the longer he goes? impossible.
in fact, skeptical of the times at all. no one runs a double distance with no fade. he is implying he runs same pace at whatever two races are in the middle. 1500 or 1600 increments. no one does that. you lose time the second half. maybe some olympian negative splits. a kid's PR is not going to be just as fast out near 2 mi as at 1 mi.
"obviously."
What are you talking about? The 8:30 is a 3k, we agree, and the 4:15 is either 1600 or mile, probably the mile for the reason you mentioned that I can’t think of any states that run 1600 and 3k for U.S. high schools. Most likely a college kid stating mile and 3k times which happen to be of very comparable strength.
“plus, i seriously doubt someone runs an 8:30 "3000" but a 4:15 "1600." not only would you be in either HS or college distances, the pacing math problem should be obvious. he's faster the longer he goes? impossible.”
4:15 1600 = 63.75/lap
8:30 3000 = 68/lap
NOT faster as the distance increases.
dude, you're covering for the troll, why? why on earth would i assume someone gave me those two events -- one "quasi-imperial" HS race time and then a "metric" college time?
HS kids do (more or less) miles. when a kid gives his / / / times it's usually 800/mile/2 mile/5k.
when a college kid comes on, it's the WA stuff they do. 800/1500/3000/5k. they don't throw indoor miles in there, and they aren't mixing and matching HS and college.
he's either one or the other. it's either mile and 2 mile or 1500 and 3000. in either case it defies common sense he runs them both same pace. it also defies good sense that someone who is fading that badly from 800 to 1500 somehow stabilizes further out and then becomes a horse at 5k.
nah this is pretty clearly fudged or just made up.
you can mockingly wtf me all you want. pick either the imperial or metric races. ask anyone on here. no one runs their 2 mile-ish race same pace as their 1 mile-ish race for their PR. either you are the OP's sock or you're being naive. "oh, he must have meant 1600 and 3k." yes, because we all mix our imperial and metric races on here. right, sure.
i can see where an AI bot might need help sorting out such intricacies. a HS kid would know where he won his medals or seeds better. a college kid would know where he ranks on performance lists as well as conference.
dude, you're covering for the troll, why? why on earth would i assume someone gave me those two events -- one "quasi-imperial" HS race time and then a "metric" college time?
HS kids do (more or less) miles. when a kid gives his / / / times it's usually 800/mile/2 mile/5k.
when a college kid comes on, it's the WA stuff they do. 800/1500/3000/5k. they don't throw indoor miles in there, and they aren't mixing and matching HS and college.
he's either one or the other. it's either mile and 2 mile or 1500 and 3000. in either case it defies common sense he runs them both same pace. it also defies good sense that someone who is fading that badly from 800 to 1500 somehow stabilizes further out and then becomes a horse at 5k.
nah this is pretty clearly fudged or just made up.
You’re off the deep end. Thousands of college kids have mile and 3k PRs listed on their TFFRS pages. You know they race both distances at conference and national indoor championships, right? And 4:15/8:30 makes perfect sense as a combination of mile/3k PRs: according to World Athletics points, a 4:15.50 mile is equal to 8:29.17 for 3k. They’re virtually identical.
What are you talking about? The 8:30 is a 3k, we agree, and the 4:15 is either 1600 or mile, probably the mile for the reason you mentioned that I can’t think of any states that run 1600 and 3k for U.S. high schools. Most likely a college kid stating mile and 3k times which happen to be of very comparable strength.
“plus, i seriously doubt someone runs an 8:30 "3000" but a 4:15 "1600." not only would you be in either HS or college distances, the pacing math problem should be obvious. he's faster the longer he goes? impossible.”
4:15 1600 = 63.75/lap
8:30 3000 = 68/lap
NOT faster as the distance increases.
dude, you're covering for the troll, why? why on earth would i assume someone gave me those two events -- one "quasi-imperial" HS race time and then a "metric" college time?
HS kids do (more or less) miles. when a kid gives his / / / times it's usually 800/mile/2 mile/5k.
when a college kid comes on, it's the WA stuff they do. 800/1500/3000/5k. they don't throw indoor miles in there, and they aren't mixing and matching HS and college.
he's either one or the other. it's either mile and 2 mile or 1500 and 3000. in either case it defies common sense he runs them both same pace. it also defies good sense that someone who is fading that badly from 800 to 1500 somehow stabilizes further out and then becomes a horse at 5k.
nah this is pretty clearly fudged or just made up.
What are you on about? If they are stating a 3k time, you can assume they are also stating a mile time since, ya know, they run both in college during the indoor season. No way you are truly this dense.
no, dude said he ran 3k. HS kids don't usually run the full k/half k races, eg 1500/3000, they run 1600/3200. that suggests college or foreign.
plus, i seriously doubt someone runs an 8:30 "3000" but a 4:15 "1600." not only would you be in either HS or college distances, the pacing math problem should be obvious. he's faster the longer he goes? impossible.
in fact, skeptical of the times at all. no one runs a double distance with no fade. he is implying he runs same pace at whatever two races are in the middle. 1500 or 1600 increments. no one does that. you lose time the second half. maybe some olympian negative splits. a kid's PR is not going to be just as fast out near 2 mi as at 1 mi.
"obviously."
Did you go to school in Baltimore? Your math “abilities” are fitting.
Agreed. 3k is slightly better than mile but not by much. But that could be explained by him being more naturally suited for a 3000 or having a better paced race with better competition than in the mile