Yeah, I'm with you. The intellectually lazy view of "everyone's doing it" bums me out, not least of why is that I was a clean (globally elite) cyclist in the dirtiest era. It feels like getting victimized twice: once from the cheaters themselves and secondly by the fans assuming that you're a doper, too. F*ck that thinking.
Yeah, I'm with you. The intellectually lazy view of "everyone's doing it" bums me out, not least of why is that I was a clean (globally elite) cyclist in the dirtiest era. It feels like getting victimized twice: once from the cheaters themselves and secondly by the fans assuming that you're a doper, too. F*ck that thinking.
I understand your frustration, but how can you call this sort of cynicism intellectually lazy when so much points to ubiquitous doping being a sad reality of the sport at the highest level? National anti-doping agencies covering for domestic athletes, WADA spokespeople admitting that testers are always playing catch up, a system that allows multiple whereabouts violations with no penalties, designer drugs with short half lives, so-called “grey area” substances and methods that are not banned but offer considerable performance enhancement, etc.
If you want to believe in clean sport, more power to you, but to reduce the opinion that doping is widespread to lazy pessimism is unfair. The view on drug use that is truly lazy (and seems to be held by so many here) is the naive belief that some countries are clean and others are dirty, even when athletes from the supposedly clean nations are competing at the same level as those from the dirty ones.
Could be, could be. I'm not suggesting that she's doping, but if she wanted to, one of the best ways to access a variety of PEDs is knowing someone who raises cattle.
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Yeah, I'm with you. The intellectually lazy view of "everyone's doing it" bums me out, not least of why is that I was a clean (globally elite) cyclist in the dirtiest era. It feels like getting victimized twice: once from the cheaters themselves and secondly by the fans assuming that you're a doper, too. F*ck that thinking.
I understand your frustration, but how can you call this sort of cynicism intellectually lazy when so much points to ubiquitous doping being a sad reality of the sport at the highest level? National anti-doping agencies covering for domestic athletes, WADA spokespeople admitting that testers are always playing catch up, a system that allows multiple whereabouts violations with no penalties, designer drugs with short half lives, so-called “grey area” substances and methods that are not banned but offer considerable performance enhancement, etc.
If you want to believe in clean sport, more power to you, but to reduce the opinion that doping is widespread to lazy pessimism is unfair. The view on drug use that is truly lazy (and seems to be held by so many here) is the naive belief that some countries are clean and others are dirty, even when athletes from the supposedly clean nations are competing at the same level as those from the dirty ones.
Read what I wrote again. Cynicism and skepticism is right seeing, right thinking. I'm not trying to white wash a dirty world. But the "everyone's doing it" and it's companion of "you can't be elite unless you dope" is lazy. Do you see the difference? I know for a fact that it is a cloudy world. PEDs and high performance will always challenge the sports world. But I do believe in doing things right. I do believe that if you have to cheat to win, you've already lost. And I believe I'm not alone in my beliefs among athletic elite. Some athletes believe something else and they cheapen themselves and their sport.
Except we found out in other sports where the lid was blown off, like cycling or even baseball during the "live ball" era that almost every top competitor was doping.
Indeed. Most humans use the ignore tactic first and foremost. The institution has advanced tactics up their sleeves. They will attempt to dub the source as not credible by shaming/labeling them (ie conspiracy theorist) and threatening cancelation of them or anyone who agrees with them. Censorship also weaponized by them.
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Ok, so Ellie and Nick Willis are the two least likely to dope medalists ever. got it. what do they have in common?
I think lyles is clean. I think tim c is clean. I think faith is clean. in my heart I want bolt to be clean, though if anyone seems too good to be true it'd be him. I am extremely skeptical of nordas and most of the "bowerman babes" even the ones not serving a doping ban. I think a large part of why african runners get accused of doping more is their dominance in the distance events across both genders, and the well documented negligence of their anti doping agencies over the years. while I'm certain some of the dialogue surrounding this topic is racist, its hardly the only (or main) reasoning.
I mean, if I could pick one athlete male or female that I would be shocked it they ever got caught doping, it'd be her.
So, if she can lace 'em up and win, then maybe others are clean too?
I have newfound hope that T&F isn't a complete sham!
Thanks Elle!
Do you think she's a doper? Evidently not. Do I think she's a doper? No. Does this prove that she's not a doper? No. Nick Willis, who I also don't believe was a doper once said "We're all under suspicion" or something along those lines. It's unfair for clean athletes to have that shadow hanging over them but there's no way for them to get out from under that shadow. It's a situation like the one Catholic priests are in. Most of them by far are not perverts or pedophiles but enough of them were or are that it's hard not to wonder about any of them.
Ok, so Ellie and Nick Willis are the two least likely to dope medalists ever. got it. what do they have in common?
Since you obviously think everyone is doing it, you must also be including Syd and Athing? I don't, but call me naive.
Odds are they are doping. It doesn’t seem very likely Kersee has stopped doping…
in the end the problem is we will never know if the drugs just get a lot closer to human limits (max rbc, max recovery,…) or if they let you push past them. Maybe bekele was clean and it is just the 13:00 talent that ran 12:45 on epo. But it is also likely he is 12:50 talent running 12:37 on EPO.
