He does pretty insane workouts, with a big focus on threshold volume + overall volume (says 70+ mpw). He recently got a lactate meter and from what he has posted it seems like his threshold is around 5:18/mi. Seems like his dad is his coach. Discuss… is this too early?
He does pretty insane workouts, with a big focus on threshold volume + overall volume (says 70+ mpw). He recently got a lactate meter and from what he has posted it seems like his threshold is around 5:18/mi. Seems like his dad is his coach. Discuss… is this too early?
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He does pretty insane workouts, with a big focus on threshold volume + overall volume (says 70+ mpw). He recently got a lactate meter and from what he has posted it seems like his threshold is around 5:18/mi. Seems like his dad is his coach. Discuss… is this too early?
The thing is he is definitely going above his threshold on every workout. His supposed threshold is ~5:18/mi, but for example in his most recent workout he did 1600s at sub-5 min pace. That's overcooking it if you are trying to hit threshold pace.
He does pretty insane workouts, with a big focus on threshold volume + overall volume (says 70+ mpw). He recently got a lactate meter and from what he has posted it seems like his threshold is around 5:18/mi. Seems like his dad is his coach. Discuss… is this too early?
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I dont know if it is too early or not but I can say what was a good 8th grader time back in the day when we did 12 weeks of track after soccer, Bb and hockey isn’t in the same ballpark of what is good when you are cranking out 50+mpw for a a couple odd years. The amount of sub 4:50 and sub 17s we are seeing is crazy.
It isn’t too early, but his current training may be unsustainable. If he stays healthy and continues to improve even a small amount in the next 4 years that will be great.
Kids weigh nothing, I'm sure any idiot could coach a reasonably talented, lightweight, tough kid to run a fast 5km. But there's a lot of things with more benefit they can be doing to maximise potential long term development.
He does pretty insane workouts, with a big focus on threshold volume + overall volume (says 70+ mpw). He recently got a lactate meter and from what he has posted it seems like his threshold is around 5:18/mi. Seems like his dad is his coach. Discuss… is this too early?
The thing is he is definitely going above his threshold on every workout. His supposed threshold is ~5:18/mi, but for example in his most recent workout he did 1600s at sub-5 min pace. That's overcooking it if you are trying to hit threshold pace.
He recently got a lactate meter and posted on his story that his lactate on the session was 2.1. Although I dont know the details on his lactate profile or anything, it seems like he hit threshold bang on. If u look at his 2k threshold workout he was going at around 6:35. Assuming he was doing the session with the lactate meter at the same pace it seems like he really is that fast
He lives in Wisconsin. This situation is concerning. What world record is claiming? There are thousands of Africans who are faster. There are African women who are as fast.
Probably the worst 2 ages to pick. Girls vs boys is massively different, there is the most variability in puberty at those 2 ages. So at 11 you cant jog 30 min but you can play travel soccer/hockey...?
It isn’t too early, but his current training may be unsustainable. If he stays healthy and continues to improve even a small amount in the next 4 years that will be great.
This is my take as well. He's doing a ton of hard training and seems to hammer everything, way more work than a typical 8th grader, so not surprising he is running faster than other 8th graders. His form does not look smooth, over striding and way too much of a reaching arm movement. Certainly not an effortless Evan Jager high school stride. But we'll see if he can keep it up. People said the same thing about Jakob Ing, but I think there are far more examples of people who ran fast early and didn't keep it going and this could be yet another example of that.
Surprized nobody has mentioned kevin schwab. I believe Kevin Schwab of mustang ran 14:51 when he was 13, in addition to countless 15 flats between age 12 and 15. Posted 908 for full 2 miles at 16. Went on to become ncaa d1 all american.