PTI reported last night that Bonds used racist and derrogatory names to describe Mark McGuire.
Think he'll get the John Rocker treatment by the liberal media for tat like any white person would?
Um.................
HELL NO HE WON'T.
If this were McGuire and he said that about Bonds, the media wouldn't even focus on his steriod use, except as a side story. Instead, they'd be calling him a racist and a bigot who used steroids.
I bet no one even hears about it except if they read the book.
Tell us somethin' we don't know.
What did he say?
I completely agree with you. there is a double standard in this country. Racism is rampant regardless of what color your skin is.
And Barry Bonds is no exception. He has made numerous comments in the past about white people and how blacks are treated differently and he has said some things that should be questioned but there is a double standard in this country. If a white person makes a racial comment then they are crucified. However if a black person says somethng its never made into an issue! I think that we are far enough along that all races should be held at the same standard!
yeah, what did he say?
I don't know what he said. Cornheiser just said the book says Bonds used racist and derrogatory terms to descrbie McGuire who he was extremely jealous of after he surpassed Marris' record.
Like another poster said, you'll never hear about it unless you read the book.
Bonds said this regarding McGwire:
On that trip Bonds began making racial remarks about McGwire to Kimberly Bell. According to Bell he would repeat them throughout the summer, as McGwire and Sammy Sosa, the buff, fan-friendly Chicago Cubs slugger who also was hitting home runs at an amazing rate, became the talk of the nation.
"They're just letting him do it because he's a white boy," Bonds said of McGwire and his chase of Maris's record. The pursuit by Sosa, a Latin player from the Dominican Republic, was entertaining but doomed, Bonds declared. As a matter of policy, "they'll never let him win," he said
There is suppodely more comments in the book. Also here is just a few more articles ocntaining some more of his racial outbursts.
Here are a few articles with examples of bonds racial comments and beliefs:
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2004/06/18/blasting_zone/
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-06-14-saraceno-bonds_x.htm
From the second link posted above:
"The moment is frozen in Kittle's mind: Bonds sitting, bat on the ground, with hands on top of the knob. Kittle introduced himself and, according to his book, said, " 'Barry, if you sign these, they'll bring in a lot of money for kids who need help.' Bonds stood up, looked me in the eye and said, 'I don't sign for white people.' "
Brian Popp, an attorney who works on the ex-player's charity committee, told me Tuesday that he distinctly remembers the phone call he received immediately after Kittle left the stadium. "He was livid — I've never heard him angrier. He said, 'Doesn't that S.O.B. know that blacks get cancer, too?' "
If the recuperating outfielder uttered those despicable words, where's the national outrage?"
_______
Where is the national outrage? There won't be one because blacks get a pass. Imagine Clemens or Damron making a statement like that about blacks. Holy Schmolly, there would be riots, Jesse Jackson would be calling for a boycot of baseball and the press would be all over it.
I love how you idiot runners who big league every other sport, yet once there is an issue, you chime in like you own season tickets to the Cardinals. My point is with all this baseball crap coming out, some of you have valuable remarks and some of you act like you are six, but some of you must not know anything and just want to hop on your soap box. There are two threads currently going on the Bonds issue and I have seen the following:
Kurt Schilling
Mark McGuire
Those are A., two of the more popular players of our generation and B., on ESPN, oh, 1,921 times a year.
My point, how in the hell can you not spell those their names right? You look really stupid talking baseball when you can't even spell yet if I asked you drunk to spell the name of the third fastest 10K by a Kenyan all-time -- backwards -- you'd do it in 10 seconds. I'd beat you up if I could.
The silence of the black leaders to this type of racist attitude is deafening.
Just because we are runners doesn't mean we can't be fans of other sports and have an opinion outside the realm of running. I personally love football and baseball and would probably watch a football game over a track meet anyday even though I ran track in high school and college and still compete on the roads etc. Running is a true passion of mine but so is other sports.
So I don't understand why we can't have opinions about other sports. I am a Yankee season ticket holder by the way.
Of course you can like and enjoy other sports...and have opinions. The point is your opinion is greatly decreased when you spell the peoples names you are discussing. It looks bad. If someone spelled Bob Kennedy's name wrong, the message board would blow up.
I have no doubt that he is racist, but my question is:
How is calling McGuire a "white boy" racist? Isn't he a white guy? How is this a negative term? It seems that if he called him a cracker that would be different, but white boy?
thinker wrote:
I have no doubt that he is racist, but my question is:
How is calling McGuire a "white boy" racist? Isn't he a white guy? How is this a negative term? It seems that if he called him a cracker that would be different, but white boy?
Imagine the fallout from someone calling Bonds a "black boy" and it might help you understand a little better.
Very True wrote:
Bonds said this regarding McGwire:
On that trip Bonds began making racial remarks about McGwire to Kimberly Bell. According to Bell he would repeat them throughout the summer, as McGwire and Sammy Sosa, the buff, fan-friendly Chicago Cubs slugger who also was hitting home runs at an amazing rate, became the talk of the nation.
"They're just letting him do it because he's a white boy," Bonds said of McGwire and his chase of Maris's record. The pursuit by Sosa, a Latin player from the Dominican Republic, was entertaining but doomed, Bonds declared. As a matter of policy, "they'll never let him win," he said
There is suppodely more comments in the book. Also here is just a few more articles ocntaining some more of his racial outbursts.
Here are a few articles with examples of bonds racial comments and beliefs:
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2004/06/18/blasting_zone/http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-06-14-saraceno-bonds_x.htm
While the part about asking for the autograph is horseshit (in that he's an asshole and an idiot), in the first quote I absolutely agree with him. I have no doubt that MLB wanted McGwire to get the HR record before Sosa -- he's more marketable. In America who are you going to pick: the SoCal white boy or the black guy who doesn't speak English so well?
Imagining "fallout" and reality of the statement are two different things. I'm actually thinking, not following knee-jerk reactions from the media.
trackhead wrote:
While the part about asking for the autograph is horseshit (in that he's an asshole and an idiot), in the first quote I absolutely agree with him. I have no doubt that MLB wanted McGwire to get the HR record before Sosa -- he's more marketable. In America who are you going to pick: the SoCal white boy or the black guy who doesn't speak English so well?
Yes but a few stuffed shirts in the front office hoping for the more marketable guy to break the record is a far cry from some pitcher "letting" him get a home run.
McGwire earned his title over Sosa. At least "earned" in terms of having no advantage that Sosa didn't have. I'm not saying he didn't do roids. Maybe, I don't know for sure. Clearly no more than Sosa. Either way, there is NO way any pitcher "gave" him anything. Those guys are trying to make themselves marketable for their next contract. They don't give anything away.
The "fallout" is based on people's perceptions. Just as the very notion of "racism" is. We do not need the media to feel discriminated against. Call Bonds a "black boy" and you have uttered a racist statement in that you have placed him in that Uncle-Tom, slave-boy cast. Call McGwire a "white boy" and you have done the same thing, placing him in the "cracker", "white trash" "redneck" cast.
Class dismissed.
Barry Bonds shot JFK and he eats babies!!!