CJ Albertson speaks: "If they go out in 2:08 flat, it's not gonna be too fast...I feel like I'm pretty good at racing marathons"

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4 months ago 01/30/2024 10:04am EST

Time to get officially hyped

Our talk with him is on youtube:

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CJ Albertson Ready for Olympic Marathon Trials: "If They Go Out in 2:08 It's Not Gonna Be Too Fast"

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CJ Albertson, a professional runner for Brooks, joined us the week of the Olympic Marathon Trials.The 50km world record holder is ready for the heat of Orlan...

Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAb0SAhoDQU&fe...

He's got some good quotes: "I'll see some of the guys' workouts, that they, that they've done recently.Whatever they call 'em, marathon simulators or different workouts, and I'm like, you know, I probably couldn't do that. But that's also not racing a marathon. And I feel like I'm pretty good at racing marathons, even in races where I'm not nearly as fit as I am right now."

"If they go out in 2:08 flat, it's not gonna be too fast. I think you're gonna see at least a pack of at least 20 for at least 15 miles. Probably more,but just like very conservatively, at least that many, I'd probably say 30 or 40 through the half at least"

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4 months ago 01/30/2024 10:07am EST

re: wejo

wejo wrote:
Time to get officially hyped
Our talk with him is on youtube:
Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAb0SAhoDQU&fe...
He's got some good quotes: "I'll see some of the guys' workouts, that they, that they've done recently.Whatever they call 'em, marathon simulators or different workouts, and I'm like, you know, I probably couldn't do that. But that's also not racing a marathon. And I feel like I'm pretty good at racing marathons, even in races where I'm not nearly as fit as I am right now."
"If they go out in 2:08 flat, it's not gonna be too fast. I think you're gonna see at least a pack of at least 20 for at least 15 miles. Probably more,but just like very conservatively, at least that many, I'd probably say 30 or 40 through the half at least"
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I was thinking that's a dream race- 1:04 at the half with a big pack and watch them fall off as the leaders negative split.

4 months ago 01/30/2024 10:18am EST

re: runn

runn wrote:
wejo wrote:
Time to get officially hyped
Our talk with him is on youtube:
Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAb0SAhoDQU&fe...
He's got some good quotes: "I'll see some of the guys' workouts, that they, that they've done recently.Whatever they call 'em, marathon simulators or different workouts, and I'm like, you know, I probably couldn't do that. But that's also not racing a marathon. And I feel like I'm pretty good at racing marathons, even in races where I'm not nearly as fit as I am right now."
"If they go out in 2:08 flat, it's not gonna be too fast. I think you're gonna see at least a pack of at least 20 for at least 15 miles. Probably more,but just like very conservatively, at least that many, I'd probably say 30 or 40 through the half at least"
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I was thinking that's a dream race- 1:04 at the half with a big pack and watch them fall off as the leaders negative split.

There’s no way the lead pack goes out that fast. If it did, it would be a perfect situation for runners on the cusp, to give them some room, and pick off enough runners to make the team. The weather conditions, alone, will prevent a fast pace.

4 months ago 01/30/2024 10:18am EST

re: wejo

I love how CJ grinds and runs lots of races, but after watching the last three Boston Marathons I am a little weary of calling him "good at racing marathons."

4 months ago 01/30/2024 10:22am EST

re: wejo

wejo wrote:
Time to get officially hyped
Our talk with him is on youtube:
Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAb0SAhoDQU&fe...
He's got some good quotes: "I'll see some of the guys' workouts, that they, that they've done recently.Whatever they call 'em, marathon simulators or different workouts, and I'm like, you know, I probably couldn't do that. But that's also not racing a marathon. And I feel like I'm pretty good at racing marathons, even in races where I'm not nearly as fit as I am right now."
"If they go out in 2:08 flat, it's not gonna be too fast. I think you're gonna see at least a pack of at least 20 for at least 15 miles. Probably more,but just like very conservatively, at least that many, I'd probably say 30 or 40 through the half at least"
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2:08 pace IS too fast for CJ

4 months ago 01/30/2024 10:23am EST

re: Thunderpants

Thunderpants wrote:
I love how CJ grinds and runs lots of races, but after watching the last three Boston Marathons I am a little weary of calling him "good at racing marathons."

he races too much and doesn't do enough speed training. The most he'll do is like 8 x 1k in 2:50, which isn't good enough

4 months ago 01/30/2024 12:42pm EST

re: runn

runn wrote:
I was thinking that's a dream race- 1:04 at the half with a big pack and watch them fall off as the leaders negative split.

Legit no way they go out at 1:04 and have a single person negative split. I think even if you had a gigantic pack with a bunch of guys blocking the wind, nobody will negative split towards a sub 2:08.

Weather is not ideal at all.

The people who could chase a sub 2:08 are unlikely to risk blowing up entirely to get that time.

4 months ago 01/30/2024 12:59pm EST

re: wejo

I am a fan of CJ and his no fear approach to the marathon.

However, I think he is an athlete that tends to over do it in training.

If he can hold back in training just enough he will be a serious threat to make the team.

4 months ago 01/30/2024 1:18pm EST

re: 4:20 is not that fast

Pretty sure there was a group of 5-10 that went through half in 64' at the 2020 trials. That Atlanta course was way harder, though I admit I can't remember what the weather was like. I could see a lot of guys going for it on the chance that it's their day

4 months ago 01/30/2024 1:30pm EST

re: 64 is not that fast

64 is not that fast wrote:
Pretty sure there was a group of 5-10 that went through half in 64' at the 2020 trials. That Atlanta course was way harder, though I admit I can't remember what the weather was like. I could see a lot of guys going for it on the chance that it's their day

No.

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4 months ago 01/30/2024 1:33pm EST

re: wejo

Is this a joke thread? I can't point to one thing this guy has ever done that suggests he is good at racing marathons, he runs them terribly and flaunts workouts (which he appears to disparage others for here).

4 months ago 01/30/2024 1:34pm EST

re: Thunderpants

Thunderpants wrote:
I love how CJ grinds and runs lots of races, but after watching the last three Boston Marathons I am a little weary of calling him "good at racing marathons."

He is mostly good at talking before marathons.

4 months ago 01/30/2024 1:34pm EST

re: Thunderpants

Thunderpants wrote:
I love how CJ grinds and runs lots of races, but after watching the last three Boston Marathons I am a little weary of calling him "good at racing marathons."

QFE

4 months ago 01/30/2024 1:34pm EST

re: it is time,

Albertson is basically Stinson 2.0

4 months ago 01/30/2024 1:45pm EST

re: smd

Lol, I guess my memory is garbage. Anyway, 45 guys coming through half at 65:45 for those curious. By 16 miles 8 guys were within 10 seconds of the leader (Rupp), and down to 3 by 20 miles.

4 months ago 01/30/2024 2:03pm EST

re: wejo

I'd love for him to nail this one, but this is a guy who's well known for running crazy workouts and then not running as well as they'd suggest. A few years ago I remember he did a 30 mile treadmill run at like 2:09 pace or something. He's got the talent to make the team, I just hope he doesn't leave his race in a workout.

4 months ago 01/30/2024 2:05pm EST

re: wejo

wejo wrote:
Time to get officially hyped
Our talk with him is on youtube:
Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAb0SAhoDQU&fe...
He's got some good quotes: "I'll see some of the guys' workouts, that they, that they've done recently.Whatever they call 'em, marathon simulators or different workouts, and I'm like, you know, I probably couldn't do that. But that's also not racing a marathon. And I feel like I'm pretty good at racing marathons, even in races where I'm not nearly as fit as I am right now."
"If they go out in 2:08 flat, it's not gonna be too fast. I think you're gonna see at least a pack of at least 20 for at least 15 miles. Probably more,but just like very conservatively, at least that many, I'd probably say 30 or 40 through the half at least"
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So much depends on weather. I did a marathon without readjusting pace to weather and it did not go well.

4 months ago 01/30/2024 2:14pm EST

re: kiowavt

Is the quote a screw up by wejo or CJ? Going out in a time in a race is associated with a split. Imagine saying you are running the mile and you are going out in 59. Imagine saying you are going out in 2:59. Saying you are going out in 4 minutes, sounds like you are shooting for 5:20 and you have a goal of 4 at the 1200. If CJ goes out in 2:08, he either is a 4:16 marathoner or he is dumb.

4 months ago 01/30/2024 7:04pm EST

re: Peach Pit

Peach Pit wrote:
I'd love for him to nail this one, but this is a guy who's well known for running crazy workouts and then not running as well as they'd suggest. A few years ago I remember he did a 30 mile treadmill run at like 2:09 pace or something. He's got the talent to make the team, I just hope he doesn't leave his race in a workout.

uhh wut. his marathon pr is 2:10. no way in hell the guy held 2:09 pace for 30 miles on a treadmill lmao...dumb comment

4 months ago 01/30/2024 7:48pm EST

re: Peach Pit

Peach Pit wrote:
I'd love for him to nail this one, but this is a guy who's well known for running crazy workouts and then not running as well as they'd suggest. A few years ago I remember he did a 30 mile treadmill run at like 2:09 pace or something. He's got the talent to make the team, I just hope he doesn't leave his race in a workout.

He was 7th last time, 6th among returners, and better than 6th among returners for recent form. He's not as bad as some of you want to say he is.

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