Not all walk-ons actually compete so there may be some who never race and simply train with the team. You'll need to be more specific. Recruited athletes or walk-ons?
What would you say the general (give a 10-15 second range for each event) D1 Walk-On standards are for a school that, say finishes 10-20th in their XC regional? Times for the 8-3200 would be great!
Probably less than 1 in 1000. For most average new lifters, hitting a 1rm bench of 225lbs can easily take 9-15 months and for weak puny runners it's probably physically impossible.
Probably less than 1 in 1000. For most average new lifters, hitting a 1rm bench of 225lbs can easily take 9-15 months and for weak puny runners it's probably physically impossible.
That’s the thing, the body type that can bench 225 off of minimal lifting usually isn’t the kind that’ll end up being a dedicated distance runner.
Our best 5k/10k guys would max out between 115 and 135, and that’s fine. Upper body muscle is nothing but dead weight once you are trying to excel in anything above a mile or maybe 3k.
If you’re a high level HS or collegiate long distance runner you probably have a high slow twitch ratio and weigh under 150 lbs, both of those don’t bode well for good lift PRs. IMO, a 225 bench is like the sub 18 5k of the lifting world, and you don’t expect a pro power lifter to run a sub 18 5k.
Probably less than 1 in 1000. For most average new lifters, hitting a 1rm bench of 225lbs can easily take 9-15 months and for weak puny runners it's probably physically impossible.
That’s the thing, the body type that can bench 225 off of minimal lifting usually isn’t the kind that’ll end up being a dedicated distance runner.
Our best 5k/10k guys would max out between 115 and 135, and that’s fine. Upper body muscle is nothing but dead weight once you are trying to excel in anything above a mile or maybe 3k.
If you’re a high level HS or collegiate long distance runner you probably have a high slow twitch ratio and weigh under 150 lbs, both of those don’t bode well for good lift PRs. IMO, a 225 bench is like the sub 18 5k of the lifting world, and you don’t expect a pro power lifter to run a sub 18 5k.
Depends really. Some guys who are wrestlers do a lot of cardio and can no doubt put up a decent 8K, at least good enough to be walk-ons at D1-schools not known for XC prowess. Not every D1 school is a top notch XC program and you have rosters of guys who were 15:30 to 17:00 XC runners in high school.
As another data point I know a guy from my high school who went into the USMC and was a mid 16's XC runner. His 1 rep max in high school from being a runner, wrestler and football player was at least 225 no doubt. 12 years later he is still a solid runner and now has a 275 for 3 reps based on recent instagram posts of his lifting.
Bench press is just one type of movement and having TECHNIQUE and upper body strength are not mutually exclusive to having good cardio.
I think you're more likely to find people who have huge squats as being less capable at distance running than someone with good upper body strength.
That’s the thing, the body type that can bench 225 off of minimal lifting usually isn’t the kind that’ll end up being a dedicated distance runner.
Our best 5k/10k guys would max out between 115 and 135, and that’s fine. Upper body muscle is nothing but dead weight once you are trying to excel in anything above a mile or maybe 3k.
If you’re a high level HS or collegiate long distance runner you probably have a high slow twitch ratio and weigh under 150 lbs, both of those don’t bode well for good lift PRs. IMO, a 225 bench is like the sub 18 5k of the lifting world, and you don’t expect a pro power lifter to run a sub 18 5k.
Depends really. Some guys who are wrestlers do a lot of cardio and can no doubt put up a decent 8K, at least good enough to be walk-ons at D1-schools not known for XC prowess. Not every D1 school is a top notch XC program and you have rosters of guys who were 15:30 to 17:00 XC runners in high school.
As another data point I know a guy from my high school who went into the USMC and was a mid 16's XC runner. His 1 rep max in high school from being a runner, wrestler and football player was at least 225 no doubt. 12 years later he is still a solid runner and now has a 275 for 3 reps based on recent instagram posts of his lifting.
Bench press is just one type of movement and having TECHNIQUE and upper body strength are not mutually exclusive to having good cardio.
I think you're more likely to find people who have huge squats as being less capable at distance running than someone with good upper body strength.
Give a squat number. What do you consider huge squats? Two-hundred something bench press is equal to three-hundred-something free weight squat.
We had a guy on my D3 team who I’m pretty sure could have benched 225. I don’t think he lifted much but he was a black belt in I think karate and I saw him “deal with” a couple rowdy guys at parties. I’d actually be extremely surprised if he couldn’t do 225. Not sure what his running times were, maybe 17 something for 5k which is pretty decent considering his build. But for most competitive D1 runners, it would take pretty exceptional genetics. I remember failing once at 135 once in college (although I had done it before but I hadn’t lifted in a while). After I stopped running seriously and lifting, I got to 225 within a year or maybe less.