If you have a toxic culture with... players that are not even on campus
I don't follow Ohio St. at all, so what is this comment alluding to?
With respect to transfers, you might be right, but how do Ohio St.'s potential transfers compare to other schools? Maybe it's common for this to happen after the bowls come out. I typically don't keep up with players and their movements.
We have no idea how good Michigan is compared to Alabama or Georgia. I'm going to go with history since Michigan sucked against them last year and Michigan hasn't gotten any better.
Wrong. Ryan day was there before, right next to Pervin Liar. The suckeyes play calling was fine. The ran the ball 11 times in one drive and scored. They said Marvin Harrison needed to have a good game...he did. It came down to one play and against a much better defense in Michigan, the game can go either way. You guys are hating on Day because your run is over with. John Cooper was great coach, but he couldn't beat Mich...ever. It happens. Mich didn't fire Harbaugh after he lost mutiple times to OSU.
Be careful who you wish for.
No one who has actually seen the games would say the play calling is fine.
Yes they ran the ball 11 times in one drive and scored. And they ran the ball like 10 times the entire rest of the game despite having 2 running backs better than Corum.
If you have a toxic culture with... players that are not even on campus
I don't follow Ohio St. at all, so what is this comment alluding to?
With respect to transfers, you might be right, but how do Ohio St.'s potential transfers compare to other schools? Maybe it's common for this to happen after the bowls come out. I typically don't keep up with players and their movements.
McCord is leaving because he's not going to start next year if he stays.
It's not at all uncommon for players to transfer if they know they can't get on the field.
Texas's starting QB transferred from Ohio State, for example.
I can’t understand how anyone thought TX didn’t deserve to be in. The win over Bama was the marquee out of conference win of the season for anyone. Won the Big12 convincingly too.
I can’t understand how anyone thought TX didn’t deserve to be in. The win over Bama was the marquee out of conference win of the season for anyone. Won the Big12 convincingly too.
Because they lost to Oklahoma
Again, if Alabama is in the conversation. OU was the chief rival in what was a very even and close game at a neutral site. But TX won the Big12 convincingly and has the best non-conference win of the season over the team who will probably be favored to win it all when Jan. 1 rolls around.
The oddsmakers currently have Georgia as a 14-point favorite over FSU, so it’s not just the committee who “snubbed” FSU.
Again, if Alabama is in the conversation. OU was the chief rival in what was a very even and close game at a neutral site. But TX won the Big12 convincingly and has the best non-conference win of the season over the team who will probably be favored to win it all when Jan. 1 rolls around.
The oddsmakers currently have Georgia as a 14-point favorite over FSU, so it’s not just the committee who “snubbed” FSU.
FSU can't win, win or lose.
I realized though that this makes Ron mad so I'm good with it, as much as I hate Alabama.
The oddsmakers currently have Georgia as a 14-point favorite over FSU, so it’s not just the committee who “snubbed” FSU.
And I'm sure that's not at all influenced by ESPN and the committee telling us all how terrible FSU is now.
FSU has an opportunity and plenty of incentive with this bowl game, both because they felt like they belonged, and because if UGa had simply beaten Bama, both UGa and FSU would’ve been in. It was that simple. So, perhaps the Bulldogs is where they should grind their axe. I hope they do. Truly. I doubt they will.
Two thoughts, and I went to Northwestern so I don't have a dog in the fight,
1- Can you imagine Sarkisian at the beginning of the year- "Hey guys, If you run the table, go undefeated and win the Big 12 conference, we won't make the playoffs, but ......."
2- If this was say , week 8 or 10, and the same outcomes occurred, would GA drop all the way to 6 and would Bama bump up from 8 to 4- skipping TX along the way. I personally don't think that would have happened.
In a way it seems like a double standard, the committee leaves out TX because of how their team is now -without the starting and possibly backup QB, as if to say they're not one of the top 4 teams now, which I can see the point-- but then hard to make the same statement about GA leaving them out because regardless of that loss, they are clearly one of the top 4 teams still. That is the problem with a subjective playoff.
And I'm sure that's not at all influenced by ESPN and the committee telling us all how terrible FSU is now.
FSU has an opportunity and plenty of incentive with this bowl game, both because they felt like they belonged, and because if UGa had simply beaten Bama, both UGa and FSU would’ve been in. It was that simple. So, perhaps the Bulldogs is where they should grind their axe. I hope they do. Truly. I doubt they will.
Even more disappointing than I thought they would be. I wonder if FSU is still whining that the committee made the wrong decision?
Middle Tennessee finished just 4-8 but they did give the other team that got completely hosed by the playoff committee a tough game. 13-0 Liberty University.
Middle Tennessee finished just 4-8 but they did give the other team that got completely hosed by the playoff committee a tough game. 13-0 Liberty University.
How is Texas going to be exposed? They beat Alabama, they beat a good BYU team, they beat Kansas, they beat Kansas State, they steamrolled OSU. It is Michigan getting ready to be exposed. How many Bowling Greens can you beat and still consider to have a legit schedule?
Michigan is going to get steamrolled. If Nick Saban coached this year's Ohio State team Michigan loses that game by 30. Not many players on Michigan could start for OSU.
Michigan is going to get steamrolled. If Nick Saban coached this year's Ohio State team Michigan loses that game by 30. Not many players on Michigan could start for OSU.
Some steamroll. You know nothing.
I certainly over estimated the SEC this year. Alabama looked awful and Saban's play calling was hot garbage.
How is Texas going to be exposed? They beat Alabama, they beat a good BYU team, they beat Kansas, they beat Kansas State, they steamrolled OSU. It is Michigan getting ready to be exposed. How many Bowling Greens can you beat and still consider to have a legit schedule?
Michigan is going to get steamrolled. If Nick Saban coached this year's Ohio State team Michigan loses that game by 30. Not many players on Michigan could start for OSU.
Michigan is going to get steamrolled. If Nick Saban coached this year's Ohio State team Michigan loses that game by 30. Not many players on Michigan could start for OSU.
Lol, genius insight.
So, always easy in hindsight, but I’d say UM, OSU, Bama, and Georgia were your top 4. Georgia likely would’ve won it all. As it is, we’ll go with Michigan with the big asterisk.
Michigan is going to get steamrolled. If Nick Saban coached this year's Ohio State team Michigan loses that game by 30. Not many players on Michigan could start for OSU.
Lol, genius insight.
I loathe Michigan. I can't be trusted to to be objective.
It's not just the 1st round it's all the rounds. OSU historically has way more NFL draft picks than Michigan does because OSU usually has better talent.
My point was OSU is a more talented team than Michigan this year.
OSU lost the game because it has a terrible coach.
Now that the NFL draft has been completed, let’s revisit this claim.
Michigan had the highest number of draft picks this year, with 13. Here are the top 5 schools:
Michigan -- 13 Texas -- 11 Alabama -- 10 Florida State -- 10 Washington -- 10
OSU had only 4! Michigan had nearly twice that amount in the first three rounds alone.
It's not just the 1st round it's all the rounds. OSU historically has way more NFL draft picks than Michigan does because OSU usually has better talent.
My point was OSU is a more talented team than Michigan this year.
OSU lost the game because it has a terrible coach.
Now that the NFL draft has been completed, let’s revisit this claim.
Michigan had the highest number of draft picks this year, with 13. Here are the top 5 schools:
Michigan -- 13 Texas -- 11 Alabama -- 10 Florida State -- 10 Washington -- 10
OSU had only 4! Michigan had nearly twice that amount in the first three rounds alone.
It will be interesting to see how many OSU players who were on that roster for that game end up getting drafted next year. They had a lot of players not enter the draft who were eligible sort of like Michigan from 2022.
Michigan was very talented and well coached last year. Ohio State should have the edge in both departments this year, but then it has had that edge in the past and not won.
It will be interesting to see how many OSU players who were on that roster for that game end up getting drafted next year. They had a lot of players not enter the draft who were eligible sort of like Michigan from 2022.
Michigan was very talented and well coached last year. Ohio State should have the edge in both departments this year, but then it has had that edge in the past and not won.
Ohio State definitely would have had more players drafted had they opted to declare. The Buckeyes are going to be very good next year especially given how many more good players they picked up in the portal.
Speaking of Buckeyes and the draft, the Texans got a big pickup in Ohio State TE Cade Stover. He’s a hell of an athlete. He’ll make an impact in Houston and was a steal in the 4th round.
A huge head scratcher was Michael Penix going to the Falcons with the 8th pick. I expect him to be a bust in the NFL.
