I'm currently 18. Ive been running for 4 years and just recently ran 8:44 for 3000m. If I really grind the next 5 years, do I have a chance at going pro?
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I'm currently 18. Ive been running for 4 years and just recently ran 8:44 for 3000m. If I really grind the next 5 years, do I have a chance at going pro?
Maybe. Katelyn Tuohy ran 8:35 at age 19 and she is rumored to be going pro very soon. So anything is possible.
Going pro doesn’t exactly mean what it used to. You can get sponsorships and be terrible as long as you have a large social media following. If you want to go pro based on performance it’ll take 7:40 in the 3k, which you’re not going to run.
Going pro doesn’t exactly mean what it used to. You can get sponsorships and be terrible as long as you have a large social media following. If you want to go pro based on performance it’ll take 7:40 in the 3k, which you’re not going to run.
Why you say that? 8:44 is about 9:24 for 2 miles and he's talking about 5 years down the road after running only 4 years so far. It's not impossible, especially if he's been undertrained.
Going pro doesn’t exactly mean what it used to. You can get sponsorships and be terrible as long as you have a large social media following. If you want to go pro based on performance it’ll take 7:40 in the 3k, which you’re not going to run.
Why you say that? 8:44 is about 9:24 for 2 miles and he's talking about 5 years down the road after running only 4 years so far. It's not impossible, especially if he's been undertrained.
Even if he’s undertrained, he’s going to need 52-ish 400 speed. Undertrained guys with elite talent are also going to have PRs like 4:15/9:20(3200m)
Why you say that? 8:44 is about 9:24 for 2 miles and he's talking about 5 years down the road after running only 4 years so far. It's not impossible, especially if he's been undertrained.
Even if he’s undertrained, he’s going to need 52-ish 400 speed. Undertrained guys with elite talent are also going to have PRs like 4:15/9:20(3200m)
He's around the equivalent of 9:20 I don't see an invalid point there. Plus you may not have 52 second speed now but five years from now he might have it. Dude's only 18.
I'm currently 18. Ive been running for 4 years and just recently ran 8:44 for 3000m. If I really grind the next 5 years, do I have a chance at going pro?
After being a slacker for 4 years, what’s changed for you that makes you think you’re capable of training like an elite? Have you ever ran doubles?
I'm currently 18. Ive been running for 4 years and just recently ran 8:44 for 3000m. If I really grind the next 5 years, do I have a chance at going pro?
After being a slacker for 4 years, what’s changed for you that makes you think you’re capable of training like an elite? Have you ever ran doubles?
I was an assistant coach for Dan Huling in high school. He had a 3200 of 9:26 and we did 50 mile weeks with very little speedwork. He went to Miami of Ohio, handled that quite well then was coached by Robert Gary post college and he went 8:13 in the steeple, 7:44 in the 3000 and 13:18 in the 5000.
Use some critical thinking. If the kid gets into a good college program he'll transition into more advanced workouts and if he responds well to that he'll be ready to transition into more focused training.
After being a slacker for 4 years, what’s changed for you that makes you think you’re capable of training like an elite? Have you ever ran doubles?
I was an assistant coach for Dan Huling in high school. He had a 3200 of 9:26 and we did 50 mile weeks with very little speedwork. He went to Miami of Ohio, handled that quite well then was coached by Robert Gary post college and he went 8:13 in the steeple, 7:44 in the 3000 and 13:18 in the 5000.
Use some critical thinking. If the kid gets into a good college program he'll transition into more advanced workouts and if he responds well to that he'll be ready to transition into more focused training.
I might add Dan didn't reach that level until 10 or 12 years after high school. Some things, believe or not take time.
After being a slacker for 4 years, what’s changed for you that makes you think you’re capable of training like an elite? Have you ever ran doubles?
I was an assistant coach for Dan Huling in high school. He had a 3200 of 9:26 and we did 50 mile weeks with very little speedwork. He went to Miami of Ohio, handled that quite well then was coached by Robert Gary post college and he went 8:13 in the steeple, 7:44 in the 3000 and 13:18 in the 5000.
Use some critical thinking. If the kid gets into a good college program he'll transition into more advanced workouts and if he responds well to that he'll be ready to transition into more focused training.
Right. Hurling ran 9:26 and 4:11.6. You are a coach but you didn’t know that 4:11 is a far superior time to 9:26? Like I said before, if the OP has elite talent, he’s already going to have a fast 1600m time, even with modest training.
Runners are almost always self-disciplined. Is the OP going to run more just because someone tells him to?
I'm currently 18. Ive been running for 4 years and just recently ran 8:44 for 3000m. If I really grind the next 5 years, do I have a chance at going pro?
How many Instagram followers do you have right now? How about TikTok?
If you get to 250+k in the next four years, you might have a chance.
I was an assistant coach for Dan Huling in high school. He had a 3200 of 9:26 and we did 50 mile weeks with very little speedwork. He went to Miami of Ohio, handled that quite well then was coached by Robert Gary post college and he went 8:13 in the steeple, 7:44 in the 3000 and 13:18 in the 5000.
Use some critical thinking. If the kid gets into a good college program he'll transition into more advanced workouts and if he responds well to that he'll be ready to transition into more focused training.
Right. Hurling ran 9:26 and 4:11.6. You are a coach but you didn’t know that 4:11 is a far superior time to 9:26? Like I said before, if the OP has elite talent, he’s already going to have a fast 1600m time, even with modest training.
Runners are almost always self-disciplined. Is the OP going to run more just because someone tells him to?
What I know is Dan wasn't as proficient as he was at 1600; he finished 11th at state xc and didn't crack the top 30 at FLMW. He would agree that he wasn't all that dedicated until his senior year. He only made a serious effort to do off season running after his junior year and even then put in only about 600 miles that summer. He and Andrew McQuillan were interchangeable at the 1-2 spots and Q ran 9:22.
Everyone was surprised that he developed into what he became. He was a good example of someone who changed his focus and realized his potential.
Right. Hurling ran 9:26 and 4:11.6. You are a coach but you didn’t know that 4:11 is a far superior time to 9:26? Like I said before, if the OP has elite talent, he’s already going to have a fast 1600m time, even with modest training.
Runners are almost always self-disciplined. Is the OP going to run more just because someone tells him to?
What I know is Dan wasn't as proficient as he was at 1600; he finished 11th at state xc and didn't crack the top 30 at FLMW. He would agree that he wasn't all that dedicated until his senior year. He only made a serious effort to do off season running after his junior year and even then put in only about 600 miles that summer. He and Andrew McQuillan were interchangeable at the 1-2 spots and Q ran 9:22.
Everyone was surprised that he developed into what he became. He was a good example of someone who changed his focus and realized his potential.
Correction, he was 23rd at FLMW, a minute behind Solinsky in 16:15.
Right. Hurling ran 9:26 and 4:11.6. You are a coach but you didn’t know that 4:11 is a far superior time to 9:26? Like I said before, if the OP has elite talent, he’s already going to have a fast 1600m time, even with modest training.
Runners are almost always self-disciplined. Is the OP going to run more just because someone tells him to?
What I know is Dan wasn't as proficient as he was at 1600; he finished 11th at state xc and didn't crack the top 30 at FLMW. He would agree that he wasn't all that dedicated until his senior year. He only made a serious effort to do off season running after his junior year and even then put in only about 600 miles that summer. He and Andrew McQuillan were interchangeable at the 1-2 spots and Q ran 9:22.
Everyone was surprised that he developed into what he became. He was a good example of someone who changed his focus and realized his potential.
A 4:11 based on moderate training shows rare talent. As he increased training, his performance level at the longer distances caught up with what he could do for the shorter ones.
The OP hasn’t given us much information, but he probably doesn’t have the 400m speed to be elite someday. I don’t recall anyone increasing their top-end significantly after HS.