Feels like it isn't crazy for a sub 9 California kid to stop running after hs but a sub 9 East coast kid not running collegiately is pretty much unheard of. Still an amazing time to run 4:10-4:15 and/or sub 9 from California but a lot of these kids get put in really fast races where they just gotta follow the next guy. Compared to East coast kids they don't even get to run a fast race until the end of the season and that's probably a winning state time where they're from. I won't even get into some of the great weather racing conditions Californians get sometimes. I know a lot of smart college coaches are aware and know how to identify the diamonds in the rough. But it feels like some great East coast talent is overlooked at times and had they been put in the same conditions as the Californian they might've over performed them.