The Program Aouita was using in Australia (8/15)

Interesting stuff. Thanks for taking the trouble.

Thanks for posting, appreciate it!

Doesn't seem like the best way to train to me, but maybe when you are on drugs you can train like that.

It's interesting how they start with weight lifting and not much easy running, but then the weightlifting disappears and there are more easy runs to maintain strength I'm guessing...? Sounds like a cool idea. It'd be nice to know though if this workout routine actually works well for elite athletes and not just elite athletes on 'roids.

Congrats on the awesome run in Melbourne on the weekend Rinaldi.

See why it wore them down.

Great run Sunday at the 'G, good win.

Anyone got any records of Aouita's own training from the 80s?

Is Aouita being employed as secret agent by the Maroccan government ? Is his mission to sabbotage all other nations' prospects of distance running success and hence put Marocco at the top of the world of distance running ?

Thank you for sharing.

To poster 1: you doofus, that is nothing like my training program. Here it is:

Monday: breakfast - juice

jog a little

take more juice

just chill

dinner - the syringe

Tuesday: breakfast - juice

jog a little

take more juice

just chill

dinner - the syringe

Wednesday: breakfast - juice

jog a little

take more juice

just chill

dinner - the syringe

Thursday

pills and a few intervals

Friday-Sunday

a little joggin, juicin, and chillin

I am going to have some world class Quatari athletes in no time.

aouita's training is heavily influenced by horwill and was also adapted by coe.

the schedule looks so much like what frank horwill would recommend i wonder if aouita was just influnced by horwill, or maybe horwill actually coached him, i dont know, aouita clearly used the 5 pace system with a mix of 5k,3k, 1500, 800, and 400 workouts along with a hill workout.

wetre wrote:

Doesn't seem like the best way to train to me, but maybe when you are on drugs you can train like that.

Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding! We have a winner.

"Low mileage, high intensity, plyos and weights" is code for D-R-U-G-S in this sport. In fact, attributing massive improvement to "new training methods" involving lower mileage and higher intensity has become an inside cover-up (almost a joke) on par with the "sex and beer" or "the test is flawed" or "narcolepsy runs in my family" cop-outs. Every single time - repeat, every single time - you hear "low mileage, high intensity, plyos and weights" mentioned by an elite runner in the last 30 years, think "Cathal Lombard."

Everyone seems to be jumping on the JRinaldi post. It seems short circuit to me, however the Atl's oly's were reported in OhMyGosh RW as the HGH oly's(maybe 4 yrs before - whatever). Even the under performing participants we acknowledging the use of HGH - (Across the Board) so now why are we hitting on Said? Do we need to call in the wrecking ball and start from scratch or start a new category post 06 forward ~ call it the neo`Realist - or go with the neo`Con never happen?

The real reason behind the post was just to show the program he was asking all Australian middle to long distance runners to use. He came here and basiclly said that this is the only was to train and sold a lot of people on it. Why wouldn't you be sold on a program from someone with a rang of 1:43-27:20 and that is the reason why I rang and asked for a copy. The only thing I think it is lacking is a little milage. If you ran 75 miles a week and followed that program, you would be a tuff cookie to beat. In reagrds to the drugs, well i have no idea. I've been in this sport for nearly 20 years and have trained with many different groups (Joe Douglas, Kim McDonald, Farm Team, plus others here in Australia) and have never once been offered drugs. Maybe that's a reflection on me as an althete (they probably think that it wouldn't really help me get from 1:47 to 1:43), the the fact is it as never happened. Having said that, I know Foutain very well and I know he would never make up a story like that. He's a tell like it is type of guy. So if he saids it happened, I believed it happened. Does that mean that Said took drugs during the 80's?? I have no idea and we will never know.

JR

i had read an article on said aouita, which alleges he said to the australian athletes just concentrate on the middle distances (i guess 800-10k) because you will never be able to compete with the kenyans and ethiopians in the marathon. i find that an interesting statement (if he really made it) in australia which has a marathon history which includes derek clayton and rob decastella.

deek and clayton were long before the current barrage of kenyans. deek really only had ikaanga.

I searched under "aouita training" and found this. Really interesting stuff. Bump for comments.

Aouita to Australian athletes ... either use HGH and EPO or get beaten by someone else who does.

Bumping this after seeing a pic of gregorek in a race with Aouita from '92. Good thread.