Why do some people deny the impact of cheater shoes?
While there is no doubt, carbon plate shoes allow most to run faster, at the top end, faster times are the result of new peds and more scientific approaches to ped use combined with lax anti doping over technology. So while science did lead to faster times it didn't come about in the way you imagine. But yes, the carbon stack shoes did allow a lot of people to bq or break 3 who probably wouldn't have otherwise.
While there is no doubt, carbon plate shoes allow most to run faster, at the top end, faster times are the result of new peds and more scientific approaches to ped use combined with lax anti doping over technology. So while science did lead to faster times it didn't come about in the way you imagine. But yes, the carbon stack shoes did allow a lot of people to bq or break 3 who probably wouldn't have otherwise.
While there is no doubt, carbon plate shoes allow most to run faster, at the top end, faster times are the result of new peds and more scientific approaches to ped use combined with lax anti doping over technology. So while science did lead to faster times it didn't come about in the way you imagine. But yes, the carbon stack shoes did allow a lot of people to bq or break 3 who probably wouldn't have otherwise.
Which new peds? What new approaches to ped use?
It's a throw away line. The shoe deniers will blame some new doping regimen that landed in 2016. Or, even more comical, there's some wholesale training improvement happened across the board, beginning in 2016.
They'll make those claims and will never be able to provide one scintilla of evidence to back them up.
Meanwhile, they deny the very obvious change that happened in 2016 - the shoes.
Why do some people deny the impact of cheater shoes?
Do you ever complain about cheater baseball gloves? They use to be much smaller 100 years ago than the huge baskets they wear today. Football use to use leather helmets with no face mask. Are todays carbon fiber helmets with face mask and visor cheater helmets? How about hockey goalies, back in the day they played without any headwear. Now look at what they wear. And all some people care to do now days is to complain about footwear. Sad and silly at the same time.
It's a throw away line. The shoe deniers will blame some new doping regimen that landed in 2016. Or, even more comical, there's some wholesale training improvement happened across the board, beginning in 2016.
They'll make those claims and will never be able to provide one scintilla of evidence to back them up.
Meanwhile, they deny the very obvious change that happened in 2016 - the shoes.
It's weird.
The data shows times got fastet on the road in 2016 and on the track starting 2020. Those are the years of road and track super shoe introduction.
No runner wants to believe their race times worth are 2-5 sec/mile than just a few years ago, but the yearly performance ranking list shows this very clearly.
But they ARE LEGAL. Calling them cheater shoes is silly.
Why do some people deny the impact of cheater shoes?
Do you ever complain about cheater baseball gloves? They use to be much smaller 100 years ago than the huge baskets they wear today. Football use to use leather helmets with no face mask. Are todays carbon fiber helmets with face mask and visor cheater helmets? How about hockey goalies, back in the day they played without any headwear. Now look at what they wear. And all some people care to do now days is to complain about footwear. Sad and silly at the same time.
There's an assumption built into your example. The assumption is that those advancements made each of those sports EASIER. Everyone that participates in those sports accepts that the advancements made those sports EASIER.
Not so with running. There's still a large contingent of people that want to claim that the shoes don't impact performance. That instead suddenly training is greatly improved, blah, blah, blah.
Do you ever complain about cheater baseball gloves? They use to be much smaller 100 years ago than the huge baskets they wear today. Football use to use leather helmets with no face mask. Are todays carbon fiber helmets with face mask and visor cheater helmets? How about hockey goalies, back in the day they played without any headwear. Now look at what they wear. And all some people care to do now days is to complain about footwear. Sad and silly at the same time.
Racing flats and spikes traditionally emphasized on being lightweight as possible with just enough cushioning. Modern racing shoes are now designed to propel the user forward unnaturally.
There's an assumption built into your example. The assumption is that those advancements made each of those sports EASIER. Everyone that participates in those sports accepts that the advancements made those sports EASIER.
Not so with running. There's still a large contingent of people that want to claim that the shoes don't impact performance. That instead suddenly training is greatly improved, blah, blah, blah.
Mile World Record Progression
John Paul Jones United States 31 May 1913 Allston, Mass. 4:12. Norman Taber United States 16 July 1915 Allston, Mass. 4:10.4 Paavo Nurmi Finland 23 August 1923 Stockholm 4:09.2 Jules Ladoumègue France 4 October 1931 Paris 4:07.6 Jack Lovelock New Zealand 15 July 1933 Princeton, N.J. 4:06.8 Glenn Cunningham United States 16 June 1934 Princeton, N.J. 4:06.4
And the list goes on.
Steve Ovett United Kingdom 26 August 1981 Koblenz 3:47.33 Sebastian Coe United Kingdom 28 August 1981 Brussels 3:46.32Steve Cram United Kingdom Steve Cram 27 July 1985 Oslo 3:44.39 Noureddine Morceli Algeria 5 September 1993 Rieti 3:43.13 Hicham El Guerrouj Morocco 7 July 1999 3:43.13 Rome
It would seem by looking at the IAAF record tables that training has improved during this 86 year time span.
Technology has impacted every sport. Running just seems to be so far behind. It isn’t really cheating, it is changing with the times. People used to focus on winning, but now just focus on times.
No one casually walks around in these shoes either. They only wear for enhanced performance. At first the pundits were mostly just salty because they couldn't afford the shoes but then once everyone and their dog finally got their hands on a pair, the ban the shoes protest got louder. The reality is they're not going anywhere. Nike runs the shoe world and calls the shots. Been that way since day one. You think a company that uses child slave labor (funny how cancel culture ignores this and goes after trivial matters instead) gives a damn? Nope.
There's an assumption built into your example. The assumption is that those advancements made each of those sports EASIER. Everyone that participates in those sports accepts that the advancements made those sports EASIER.
Not so with running. There's still a large contingent of people that want to claim that the shoes don't impact performance. That instead suddenly training is greatly improved, blah, blah, blah.
Mile World Record Progression
John Paul Jones United States 31 May 1913 Allston, Mass. 4:12. Norman Taber United States 16 July 1915 Allston, Mass. 4:10.4 Paavo Nurmi Finland 23 August 1923 Stockholm 4:09.2 Jules Ladoumègue France 4 October 1931 Paris 4:07.6 Jack Lovelock New Zealand 15 July 1933 Princeton, N.J. 4:06.8 Glenn Cunningham United States 16 June 1934 Princeton, N.J. 4:06.4
And the list goes on.
Steve Ovett United Kingdom 26 August 1981 Koblenz 3:47.33 Sebastian Coe United Kingdom 28 August 1981 Brussels 3:46.32Steve Cram United Kingdom Steve Cram 27 July 1985 Oslo 3:44.39 Noureddine Morceli Algeria 5 September 1993 Rieti 3:43.13 Hicham El Guerrouj Morocco 7 July 1999 3:43.13 Rome
It would seem by looking at the IAAF record tables that training has improved during this 86 year time span.
Not talking about that 86 year span.
What great training advancement happened in 2016 that accounts for the broad improvement in distance running, since 2016? It should be easy to explain. I've been told it's responsible for marked improvement from high school up through the pro ranks. Everyone should know what it is, because everyone is improving.
Yet, nobody can outline what this "improved training" is. But, it's definitely the training and not the shoes.
Have we ever had top notch track distance guys go for the marathon at their track peak? Usually most go for the marathon on the down swing of their track career.
Kipchoge was one of the best track guys and went after the marathon during his Sub 12:40 fitness.
What great training advancement happened in 2016 that accounts for the broad improvement in distance running, since 2016? It should be easy to explain. I've been told it's responsible for marked improvement from high school up through the pro ranks. Everyone should know what it is, because everyone is improving.
Yet, nobody can outline what this "improved training" is. But, it's definitely the training and not the shoes.
Have the improvements in WRs or average performances between 2016-2023 been statistically greater than the improvements across any of the last several 7-year periods? I don't think they have, but I will change my opinion is proof is offered
It's a throw away line. The shoe deniers will blame some new doping regimen that landed in 2016. Or, even more comical, there's some wholesale training improvement happened across the board, beginning in 2016.
They'll make those claims and will never be able to provide one scintilla of evidence to back them up.
Meanwhile, they deny the very obvious change that happened in 2016 - the shoes.
It's weird.
If there are no new peds then there is no longer any need for WADA and antidoping. They pretty much have the old drugs covered. But doping finds new drugs all the time and drugs that can't as yet be detected. Antidoping can't keep up. Doping is way ahead of shoes.
Do you ever complain about cheater baseball gloves? They use to be much smaller 100 years ago than the huge baskets they wear today. Football use to use leather helmets with no face mask. Are todays carbon fiber helmets with face mask and visor cheater helmets? How about hockey goalies, back in the day they played without any headwear. Now look at what they wear. And all some people care to do now days is to complain about footwear. Sad and silly at the same time.
Racing flats and spikes traditionally emphasized on being lightweight as possible with just enough cushioning. Modern racing shoes are now designed to propel the user forward unnaturally.
That's the marketing. If it were true everyone would have the same shoes and get the same results. They don't.
What great training advancement happened in 2016 that accounts for the broad improvement in distance running, since 2016? It should be easy to explain. I've been told it's responsible for marked improvement from high school up through the pro ranks. Everyone should know what it is, because everyone is improving.
Yet, nobody can outline what this "improved training" is. But, it's definitely the training and not the shoes.
Have the improvements in WRs or average performances between 2016-2023 been statistically greater than the improvements across any of the last several 7-year periods? I don't think they have, but I will change my opinion is proof is offered
It's not just the outliers that set the world records. Times have improved greatly at every level since the introduction of the shoes.
It's the shoes.
If it isn't the shoes, and it's the training, then explain how the training has changed. You can't. Nobody can.
Which brings us back to the thing that can be explained - the shoes.