let’s say i’m a senior in high school and my long run is 14-16 miles, would i get more benefit from one 10 mile single or a 8 mile + 4 mile double?
10 mile single or 12 miles in doubles
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8-4 is far better training stimuli 10-11 for a Mlr
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singlevsdoubless wrote:
let’s say i’m a senior in high school and my long run is 14-16 miles, would i get more benefit from one 10 mile single or a 8 mile + 4 mile double?
Doubles!
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singlevsdoubless wrote:
let’s say i’m a senior in high school and my long run is 14-16 miles, would i get more benefit from one 10 mile single or a 8 mile + 4 mile double?
You could do a 10-2 double 🤯
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It's more about upping your volume. A 7/5 double is a touch easier than a straight 10 miles plus you get the extra miles. But you've got you whole life to double. 16 miles is a bit long for the 5k, unless you're logging a ton of miles. There's a lot you can do with consistent weeks in HS in the 50-65mpw range in singles.
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or he could do a 11.99-0.01!!!! 😱🤯😮😳
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lucasv07 wrote:
or he could do a 11.99-0.01!!!! 😱🤯😮😳
Or you could quit posting garbage.
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I believe in doubles but I've also had success when I've consistently done a long run, even when I was training for something as short as 5K. I always did the long run on day that I didn't double. Training for me would consist of as many days as possible of doubles but with another day with a single run of 90ish minutes or more. I was a real slow-twitcher and different types of runners might have success with a different approach.
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singlevsdoubless wrote:
let’s say i’m a senior in high school and my long run is 14-16 miles, would i get more benefit from one 10 mile single or a 8 mile + 4 mile double?
Doubles, for sure. But, in all seriousness, even consider triples occasionally to really ramp miles while minimizing injury risk. Such as 5,5,5 or 4,6,4. Of course, mix in a single 6-8 mile day sometimes, too, and a day off every other week.
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Triples sometimes. wrote:
singlevsdoubless wrote:
let’s say i’m a senior in high school and my long run is 14-16 miles, would i get more benefit from one 10 mile single or a 8 mile + 4 mile double?
Doubles, for sure. But, in all seriousness, even consider triples occasionally to really ramp miles while minimizing injury risk. Such as 5,5,5 or 4,6,4. Of course, mix in a single 6-8 mile day sometimes, too, and a day off every other week.
All negatives seems…interesting. Many elites do three a day, but not because they *are* elite. I think it’s what helped them *become* elite.
increased mileage/ volume with lower injury risk.
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Triples sometimes. wrote:
Triples sometimes. wrote:
Doubles, for sure. But, in all seriousness, even consider triples occasionally to really ramp miles while minimizing injury risk. Such as 5,5,5 or 4,6,4. Of course, mix in a single 6-8 mile day sometimes, too, and a day off every other week.
All negatives seems…interesting. Many elites do three a day, but not because they *are* elite. I think it’s what helped them *become* elite.
increased mileage/ volume with lower injury risk.
I'm not against triples per se - many college runners could probably get some marginal benefit from an occasional triple, for example, it if works with their schedule.
BUT I downvoted because it seems like clearly the wrong advice for a HS runner thinking about adding doubles. Add a double or two first, then a few more - no reason to skip right to triples. Plus, 5,5,5 is just way too much for someone at a 10mi long run.
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Triples sometimes. wrote:
Triples sometimes. wrote:
Doubles, for sure. But, in all seriousness, even consider triples occasionally to really ramp miles while minimizing injury risk. Such as 5,5,5 or 4,6,4. Of course, mix in a single 6-8 mile day sometimes, too, and a day off every other week.
All negatives seems…interesting. Many elites do three a day, but not because they *are* elite. I think it’s what helped them *become* elite.
increased mileage/ volume with lower injury risk.
That's a lot of laundry and showers unless you want to be smelly.
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NERunner03533 wrote:
It's more about upping your volume. A 7/5 double is a touch easier than a straight 10 miles plus you get the extra miles. But you've got you whole life to double. 16 miles is a bit long for the 5k, unless you're logging a ton of miles. There's a lot you can do with consistent weeks in HS in the 50-65mpw range in singles.
If you have the time and desire, why would you wait to start doubles?
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Surprise! wrote:
NERunner03533 wrote:
It's more about upping your volume. A 7/5 double is a touch easier than a straight 10 miles plus you get the extra miles. But you've got you whole life to double. 16 miles is a bit long for the 5k, unless you're logging a ton of miles. There's a lot you can do with consistent weeks in HS in the 50-65mpw range in singles.
If you have the time and desire, why would you wait to start doubles?
Cause you probably don't have the time. It can be tough to get in 30-40mins in the morning, afternoon run , get homework done, and get 8-9 hours of sleep.
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Some of you seem to be guessing that he's racing only short distances. That may or may not be accurate. My main event in HS was 10k. Never did a 5k even. We just don't know what OP is training for.
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The double.
In fact, a 6-4 double would still be better than a 10 single.
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fkkfkfkfkf wrote:
Surprise! wrote:
If you have the time and desire, why would you wait to start doubles?
Cause you probably don't have the time. It can be tough to get in 30-40mins in the morning, afternoon run , get homework done, and get 8-9 hours of sleep.
Are you serious?
24 hours a day. 9 hours of sleep. 8 hours of work/class. 4-5 hours of commutes/chores/cooking.
That's still 2-3 hours left over.
How the hell is it tough to get in 40 minutes twice a day?
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time waster wrote:
fkkfkfkfkf wrote:
Cause you probably don't have the time. It can be tough to get in 30-40mins in the morning, afternoon run , get homework done, and get 8-9 hours of sleep.
Are you serious?
24 hours a day. 9 hours of sleep. 8 hours of work/class. 4-5 hours of commutes/chores/cooking.
That's still 2-3 hours left over.
How the hell is it tough to get in 40 minutes twice a day?
You forgot to add in the 10 hours of mindlessly scrolling on the phone that everyone seems to do.
But to be serious, most people who claim that they don't have time are just too lazy to make time.
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singlevsdoubless wrote:
let’s say i’m a senior in high school and my long run is 14-16 miles, would i get more benefit from one 10 mile single or a 8 mile + 4 mile double?
Paging malmôõö
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I believe a mix of the two could be good (not knowing any science behind it). So some days double and other days do the full run in 1 to get the full length endurance in one go.
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