The first pacer (sieradzki) did an ok job going through 850 on pace, but the second pacer Ramsden seemed to hold the whole field back from the pace dropping out before 800 and tripping up kipsang as he pulled out. Seems to me Kerr would have won if ramsden had stayed in for a bit longer or kept the field up with the first pacer.
The first pacer (sieradzki) did an ok job going through 850 on pace, but the second pacer Ramsden seemed to hold the whole field back from the pace dropping out before 800 and tripping up kipsang as he pulled out. Seems to me Kerr would have won if ramsden had stayed in for a bit longer or kept the field up with the first pacer.
I agree, though it is not the most popular opinion here. Kerr really only got about 730 meters of pacing, and then had to lift the pace up a bit as Ramsden started rigging before peeling off. It also hurt Kipsang, who ran into lane 3 to avoid running into Ramsden.
Kerr should've expected about 950-1000m of pacing, and getting 200m+ short of that in a race he lost by .02 matters. I bet it cost him a sub-3:30 as well.
Well yes him not finishing first cost him the win, I’m talking about what caused that. I was happy to see yared pull it out as well, just thought it was notable how bad the pacing was. Some of the worst I’ve seen in a while on the mens side.
I don't think so. They were on the back of the green lights when Ramsden stepped off. I feared for Kerr as soon as I saw him hit the front early, it's not his style - he was out-kicked by Gourley earlier this year when he tried to lead for too long. Kerr's strength is his ability to kick off a hard pace, it's what brought him both of his medals. He's not a front runner. But he was chasing the British record and I guess he also felt compelled to lewd as World Champ - Wightman said he felt the same pressure to take the lead earlier than he would have liked at last year's CWGs. Nuguse ran well and deserved the win
I don't think so. They were on the back of the green lights when Ramsden stepped off. I feared for Kerr as soon as I saw him hit the front early, it's not his style - he was out-kicked by Gourley earlier this year when he tried to lead for too long. Kerr's strength is his ability to kick off a hard pace, it's what brought him both of his medals. He's not a front runner. But he was chasing the British record and I guess he also felt compelled to lewd as World Champ - Wightman said he felt the same pressure to take the lead earlier than he would have liked at last year's CWGs. Nuguse ran well and deserved the win
While stylistically I agree with you, he has run solidly fast time trials from the front at BU (3:48 mile) and in some domestic USA races (3:31). Not as fast at this level, and he got better/more extensive pacing in those. He didn't lose because he ran a poor race or couldn't run that sort of race. He just didn't have much of a kick (Nuguse ran 13.3 the last 100), and the lack of rabbiting from 730 meters to 950-1000m in has to be mentioned as something that very well might have cost him energy in the last 300.
I don't think so. They were on the back of the green lights when Ramsden stepped off. I feared for Kerr as soon as I saw him hit the front early, it's not his style - he was out-kicked by Gourley earlier this year when he tried to lead for too long. Kerr's strength is his ability to kick off a hard pace, it's what brought him both of his medals. He's not a front runner. But he was chasing the British record and I guess he also felt compelled to lewd as World Champ - Wightman said he felt the same pressure to take the lead earlier than he would have liked at last year's CWGs. Nuguse ran well and deserved the win
I see where you’re coming from just in my view it seemed like Ramsden had an off day and had to pull off early which kept them from running with the green lights. He definitely might have been kicked down regardless, Yared closed like a demon
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I don't think so. They were on the back of the green lights when Ramsden stepped off. I feared for Kerr as soon as I saw him hit the front early, it's not his style - he was out-kicked by Gourley earlier this year when he tried to lead for too long. Kerr's strength is his ability to kick off a hard pace, it's what brought him both of his medals. He's not a front runner. But he was chasing the British record and I guess he also felt compelled to lewd as World Champ - Wightman said he felt the same pressure to take the lead earlier than he would have liked at last year's CWGs. Nuguse ran well and deserved the win
While stylistically I agree with you, he has run solidly fast time trials from the front at BU (3:48 mile) and in some domestic USA races (3:31). Not as fast at this level, and he got better/more extensive pacing in those. He didn't lose because he ran a poor race or couldn't run that sort of race. He just didn't have much of a kick (Nuguse ran 13.3 the last 100), and the lack of rabbiting from 730 meters to 950-1000m in has to be mentioned as something that very well might have cost him energy in the last 300.
You're probably right. Nuguse won by hundredths on the line so pacing could well have made the difference with Kerr insisting on front running. I think my point was more that he could have chosen to back off and let someone like Kipsang come round to take the lead. Kerr was certainly looking around at points hoping for someone to take it on. But he was caught up in a record attempt that I don't think is quite in his legs right now. Maybe at Pre with Jakob hammering from the front Kerr can get Farah's record
Kerr gave all he had in that final, gave his soul. Didn't look like fresh in this race at all. Also, probably drank too many celebratory pints beforehand? Mills looked a lot better.