Americans are disgustingly fat!

This will only last for a couple more weeks. The "New Year's Resolution" crowd will start to thin out at the gyms soon.

Where would a better place for them be? They are there to stop being fat you moron.

no offense, and glad you are noticing this, but this has been happening in earnest since the late 80s. We have supersized our culture with starch and sugar, and all those middle aged paunches will convert to form a diabetes and vascular disease epidemic such as the world has never known. Get ready to open up the checkbook for healthcare, even more than today.

Easy cowboy, I didn't realize that you were there.They are there for about one more week as another poster mentioned. Sorry, but these people have no f'in clue what they are doing and will be done shortly. Not enough weight on the machines to promote any muscle growth, not enough reps to get any CV benefit, too little time on the cardio equip to burn any fat.The really sad part is, that these people are the ones who are "trying".

Mtn Dew wrote:

Where would a better place for them be? They are there to stop being fat you moron.

You're right. But like my teacher used to say: Just because you have your book open doesn't mean you're studying.

Just because they're at the health club walking 20:00 mile pace (for 1/2 mile) doesn't mean they're exercising. I see that all the time.

What I don't get are these personal trainers that are working with these people. I was running on the treadmill last week and the guy next to me (the 20:00/mile type) showed me his schedule while I was cooling down. They had given him 4 workouts to do a week. His "personally customized schedule" was 45 minutes of weight lifting, and 20 minutes of cardio. He said the lady told him "increased muscle mass burns more calories". This dude was easily 350lbs. Seems like he'd be better off just walking on the treadmill the whole time, screw doing the bench press. But, telling someone that doesn't make them any money, I guess.

It's amazing how people love to bitch and moan about nothing at all. "The fat people aren't working out hard enough!" Give me a f***ing break. Go to McDonald's and bitch and moan, not at a workout facility.

What I don't get are these personal trainers that are working with these people. I was running on the treadmill last week and the guy next to me (the 20:00/mile type) showed me his schedule while I was cooling down. They had given him 4 workouts to do a week. His "personally customized schedule" was 45 minutes of weight lifting, and 20 minutes of cardio. He said the lady told him "increased muscle mass burns more calories". This dude was easily 350lbs. Seems like he'd be better off just walking on the treadmill the whole time, screw doing the bench press. But, telling someone that doesn't make them any money, I guess.

No, that's actually good advice. More muscle is going to burn calories faster, while it also increases strength to help keep him from getting injured while he is doing his cardio.

someone that big just isn't going to be able to do cardio for 1 hour, and if they can it isn't going to do as much as the extra muscle will.

the__wiz wrote:

No, that's actually good advice. More muscle is going to burn calories faster, while it also increases strength to help keep him from getting injured while he is doing his cardio.

someone that big just isn't going to be able to do cardio for 1 hour, and if they can it isn't going to do as much as the extra muscle will.

I disagree. The goal here is to lose weight. Someone of that size will gain no benefit by lifting weights. One hour of walking four times a week is a great way to ease into a workout regimen. 20 minutes of cardio does nothing.

I'd have to agree... if people have problems controlling their own weight, that isn't my problem. Yeah, fat people are gross looking, yeah, a lot of it is societal, blah blah blah. Don't care that much. They want to get fat and then decide they don't want to be fat anymore, let them, at least they're trying. It just sucks that most of them have no idea how they're supposed actually drop the weight. They hear all of these "helpful" little tidbits in magazines and on the radio and they think "hey, this'll be easy". The real problem is that everyone is looking for an easy way out. The easy way out is why people are getting fat. I don't feel like cooking dinner tonight, I'll just order pizza. Its kinda cold outside, I'll go for a walk tomorrow. Little things like that.

My thoughts:

1) I don't find fat people physically attractive, meaning I don't think I could ever date a fat girl.

2) It is their life choice, so I will try not to judge them or consider them inferior in other ways.

3) There is a difference between being "fat" and "big." You can be 6'2 250 and be a ball of lard or a very fit athletic specimen.

4) Maybe some of those "fatties" are brilliant physicists/engineers/humanitarians whose contributions to society are much more important than your 15:00 5k (which is the letsrun minimum to bash other people). In the event you haven't run this fast I will tell you to stop posting on this board and keep training until you run a decent time.

5) The ones there are obviously trying to improve themselves. They have been mentally weak in the past, and still may be misguided, but their inentions are there.

phidipidippides wrote:

5) The ones there are obviously trying to improve themselves. They have been mentally weak in the past, and still may be misguided, but their inentions are there.

intentions?

spellcheck wrote:

phidipidippides wrote:

5) The ones there are obviously trying to improve themselves. They have been mentally weak in the past, and still may be misguided, but their inentions are there.

intentions?

No he meant inertia.

Plenty of fat people realize that they're responsible for how big they are and that they can only change with a great deal of hard work and focus. But whiny bitches like this one (link), who think that the entire world should alter itself to accommodate their "size issues," don't help anything.

http://www.bigfatblog.com/archives/001789.php

I don't have a problem with a personal trainer telling them to lift weights along with the cardio. If I was a Personal Trainer, however, I would encourage the people to do their walking outside where they won't get as bored. Unless it's a cold rain, there's no reason they can't head out. I'll give them the cold rain as an excuse to go inside as most runners hate it as well.

While not overweight, I was going to get a personal trainer to help develop a weight routine. Unfortunately, I could not get them to understand that I just wanted to be tested and have a program developed. Maybe come back every 3 to 6 months for more testing and revamp the program. They insisted on "guiding" my workouts. I've seen them do that with others, and I don't need someone to count my reps for me.

My spouse got a personal trainer. I tried to convince her that if she got off her fat @$$ and walked instead of coming home to watch tv all evening and put in fewer calories than she was consuming, she could drop the weight. I ultimately determined that paying for a fitness trainer was cheaper than a divorce. So far, she has managed to gain another 4 pounds, while I've dropped 6 pounds lifting, running, and watching what I eat.

Barry Yatrick wrote:

Plenty of fat people realize that they're responsible for how big they are and that they can only change with a great deal of hard work and focus. But whiny bitches like this one (link), who think that the entire world should alter itself to accommodate their "size issues," don't help anything.

http://www.bigfatblog.com/archives/001789.php

And your point it...

Personal Trainer wrote:

I disagree. The goal here is to lose weight. Someone of that size will gain no benefit by lifting weights. One hour of walking four times a week is a great way to ease into a workout regimen. 20 minutes of cardio does nothing.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. The muscle mass will defintely help him lose weight throughout the day when he is not working out even when he is sleeping.

If you do not understand the relationship between muscle mass and calorie burning, then I hope you are not a real personal trainer. This is basic physiology.

Workout Watcher wrote:

I don't have a problem with a personal trainer telling them to lift weights along with the cardio. If I was a Personal Trainer, however, I would encourage the people to do their walking outside where they won't get as bored. Unless it's a cold rain, there's no reason they can't head out. I'll give them the cold rain as an excuse to go inside as most runners hate it as well.

While not overweight, I was going to get a personal trainer to help develop a weight routine. Unfortunately, I could not get them to understand that I just wanted to be tested and have a program developed. Maybe come back every 3 to 6 months for more testing and revamp the program. They insisted on "guiding" my workouts. I've seen them do that with others, and I don't need someone to count my reps for me.

If they are that fat, then they are probably self-concious about how they look and don't want to walk outside.

And Personal trainers want to make money, and they get paid per visit, so of course they really do not want to just see you 2-4 times per year.

Dude, they are everywhere, at the rec center, the mall, the library, the coffee shop, the grocery store, record store, gas station, florist, etc, etc. All I am saying is "something ain't right". Too many people are eating too much and doing too little - besides eating.