The effort level, times, the pacing of the meet and schedule. It's all better. Times are comparable, and they are just in the prelims.
The effort level, times, the pacing of the meet and schedule. It's all better. Times are comparable, and they are just in the prelims.
i often think the NCAAs is the meet to go to USA
Only if you enjoy quality track and field and watching top end effort and times. Amazing relay times as well. The relays are Olympic finalist level. It's really quite insane. There will be multiple sub 3:00 4x4s. The Olympics has maybe a 3-4 depending on the year.
of course, I am a quality kind of guy
Bumping this thread because it deserves way more discussion.
SEC is also better than USA
what other meet do you get to see world class competitors in most events in one day, male and then female.
Beat value meet to attend, especially if you love 100m-400m events (flat and hurdles).
even the 4x400m is a global medal standard in heats.
USA's gets you to OG/WC, NCAA gets you to ... nowhere.
California state high school champs, it gets no more exciting than this.
No it isn't wrote:
USA's gets you to OG/WC, NCAA gets you to ... nowhere.
no denying that. But, my comment is about seeing so much top talent in one or a few days.
A lot of NCAA champs do go on to the highest level.
I would be surprised if some of the sub 10, and sub 20 male sprinters do not go on to bigger things. They are already not far away from the best.
Deno wrote:
California state high school champs, it gets no more exciting than this.
Best 4 hours of T&F action, at the best price, anywhere. Spread my ashes at Memorial Stadium/Clovis, Hughes Stadium/Sacramento, Cerritos College/Norwalk.
Dutch Sprinter wrote:
The effort level, times, the pacing of the meet and schedule. It's all better. Times are comparable, and they are just in the prelims.
No rabbited races! This and NCAA cross nationals are pure racing. Love it.
Easy to cheer for a school versus learning names of runners every 2-4years.
Chris lewis wrote:
what other meet do you get to see world class competitors in most events in one day, male and then female.
Beat value meet to attend, especially if you love 100m-400m events (flat and hurdles).
even the 4x400m is a global medal standard in heats.
NCAAs is great but it would be 10x better if men and women competed on the same day.
Imagine getting to see Tuohy, Appleton, Barnett, and others go head to head in the 1500, then immediately after you have Messaoudi, Houser, Waskom, and Basten dropping 52 second last 400s. Only a couple hours later Tuohy is back to take on a fresh VALBY in the 5k, immediately followed by a rematch between Jacobs, Robinson, Hicks, Nico Young and Parker Wolfe.
Dutch Sprinter wrote:
The effort level, times, the pacing of the meet and schedule. It's all better. Times are comparable, and they are just in the prelims.
Part of the reason why I'm excited for NCAA Indoors to be in Boston soon, so I can make the trip to see them.
I love the men and women in different days. It moves faster. Last night was fun and now I get to see the women’s version tonight! Ncaa blows away USATF.
I would argue that the USA meet is better than the world championships and the NCAA meet. The NCAA schedule is way better though for fans.
Something to consider. World Athletics considers the NCAA championships a "B" level meet. Winning NCAAs gives you a world ranking score bonus of 100 points. Regular diamond league meets get 200 for the win, DOUBLE the points. Getting 8th in a diamond league race still gets you 100 points, which is equal to winning NCAAs. We just saw a 9.89, 19.76, 44.54 in the PRELIMS at the NCAA meet. In the three diamond league meets so far these times would have won every single race, let's even give the benefit of the doubt and say the weather conditions weren't identical and maybe they're only 3rd, either way there is a misappropriation of points for these meets. The top runners aren't showing up to every diamond league meet, and there are world championship finalists winning NCAA races. So winning NCAAs should give better bonus points than it does, and diamond league meets shouldn't give as many bonus points.
Some of the best runners in the world are in the NCAA, and they're all at the NCAA championships, unlike how not everyone goes to the diamond league races.
It looked to me like there was a reasonably decent number of spectators too. When I ask what makes this meet different from the USATF championship I keep coming back to there's a team championship and high team placings on the line at the NCAA meet and people are interested in that. So having Stanford guys go 1-2 in the 10,000 seems a bigger deal than having two BTC runners do that at USATF.
I think the drug testing scenarios are different at NCAA compared to a DL meet.