It sure explained this difference. I just wish people would stop living in fantasy land. When a runner has a drastic drop in their lifetime PR after joining a suspect training group, extremely skeptical should be the default position. It isn't laziness or cynicism, just realism. This is yet another object lesson about how powerful PEDs are (4:14 to 4:01) and why anything that seems too good to be true in this sport never is.
It sure explained this difference. I just wish people would stop living in fantasy land. When a runner has a drastic drop in their lifetime PR after joining a suspect training group, extremely skeptical should be the default position. It isn't laziness or cynicism, just realism. This is yet another object lesson about how powerful PEDs are (4:14 to 4:01) and why anything that seems too good to be true in this sport never is.
Again, just gonna say I appreciate that you and Armstronglivs keep the conversation civil. I guess I was kinda being nitpicky on this one. I don't think 4:14 --> 4:01 is likely to be explained solely by drugs. I still don't. But if you want to tell me that to make a drop that substantial deep into your career is impossible (or extremely unlikely) without drugs being a part of it I can't really disagree. So, I could probably stop splitting hairs on whether it's solely drugs or drugs + a series of factors that might have someone more realistically improving from 4:14 to 4:07 let's say.
As far as an incomplete look at suspicious progressions in the 1500 list:
Azzedine Habz (no busts yet) Shelby (Nandrolone) Josette Andrews (no busts yet) Mo Katir (no busts yet) Chemusto (Nandrolone) Nordas (no busts yet)
Little less fishy in my eyes: Mackay (no busts) Maclean (no busts yet) Mageean (no busts yet)