We all know Italy is the coolest place in Europe. If they were to somehow become an economic powerhouse, like by making themselves the place for races, building nuclear plants and powering the rest of europe, and exporting their cuisine throughout the continent they could rise to the top of the EU. The leader of Italy could also bring Britain back into the fold, allowing him or her to hold a triumph in the streets of Rome.
No. Go to Italy, you will understand.
Italy has the lowest birthrate in the world. It will have the population of Luxembourg by the end of the century.
I love Italy but anybody who's lived there will tell you it feels like a country about to let go. Most of the larger European countries, save Germany, feel like they're in decline, to be honest. And even in Germany's case, who knows what the future bodes now that they're being deprived of cheap Russian energy.
I know you are trolling but this is a pretty dumb thread. Is it the dumbest? No. But it is bad.
They are poor and disorganized as a nation:
BTW, it is still probably my favorite country to visit and if I were a billionaire, I would have a villa there for sure! It is a great country with great mountains, beaches, islands, lakes, food, history, and culture! I love Italy.
Italy is a road apple. Germany on the other hand..... Wait! Haven't we heard this before?
Remember their debt crisis not while back? Not gonna happen.
The Italians ate pasta-like food, pretty much, since the times of the ancient romans. But even after discovering America in 1492, it was still about 300 years later before they started putting tomato sauce on it.
Even now, a lot of their pizzas don't have tomato sauce. If they can't even figure out their food, I doubt there's gonna be any new empires.
Being the coolest place is antinomic with being an economic powerhouse.
I had a similar romanticized view of Italy until I visited a few times.
Italians are extremely lazy. The whole country is in disrepair. Most of their economy comes from tourism yet they’re very unfriendly to tourists especially Americans. Everything is closed most of the weekend and closes early weekdays. The infrastructure is a joke and the people are short, rude and aggressive.No surprise they’re one of the worst European countries GDP per capita.
El Keniano wrote:
I love Italy but anybody who's lived there will tell you it feels like a country about to let go. Most of the larger European countries, save Germany, feel like they're in decline, to be honest. And even in Germany's case, who knows what the future bodes now that they're being deprived of cheap Russian energy.
Thanks to socialism. Europeans are lazy. No wonder California alone has a larger GDP than any European country. Please fact check me.
Israel has the best future out of all the Mediterranean countries. It's a tech hub, strategically located, growing population just to name a few. Italy's best days are behind.
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Femboi1 wrote:
Israel has the best future out of all the Mediterranean countries. It's a tech hub, strategically located, growing population just to name a few. Italy's best days are behind.
You seen what's happening in Israel lately? The religious fundamentalists will eventually destroy that country after the secular Israels worked so hard to build it.
At least the Italians had the balls to vote in a genuinely right-wing government. Still, it's probably too late to stop the rot. I visited Florence recently, the birthplace of modern Western civilization, and I may as well have been in Lagos or Nairobi. Africans everywhere, and most of them in their traditional dress.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the difference between the North and the South. If Italy was split in two, the North would prosper and have similar standards of living to Austria and even Switzerland. Imagine if the USA and Mexico were one country, and how much more chaotic your government and economy would be.
El Ciel wrote:
At least the Italians had the balls to vote in a genuinely right-wing government. Still, it's probably too late to stop the rot. I visited Florence recently, the birthplace of modern Western civilization, and I may as well have been in Lagos or Nairobi. Africans everywhere, and most of them in their traditional dress.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the difference between the North and the South. If Italy was split in two, the North would prosper and have similar standards of living to Austria and even Switzerland. Imagine if the USA and Mexico were one country, and how much more chaotic your government and economy would be.
Never saw any of that in Florence Venice or Tuscany. Definitely saw a dilapidated crap hole though. Italians just have low IQs regardless of the latitude. That’s why their GDP per capita is around 45k.
Ireland on the other hand is the richest country in the world per capita wise with over 1 million people. There’s also been 0 Italian American presidents but a multitude of Irish ones including JFK. Kind of tells you something doesn’t it. Italians are just lazy, short, hairy, unathletic and stupid on a general level. Fauci for example.
ireland has a totally false economy with many major companies headquartered there solely because of ridiculously low tax rate.
By that logic, the US is not a country as it was stolen from Indians.
Why hasn't the US been destroyed by its religious fundamentalists? No democracy is perfect and Israel is no exception. Long term, I would still bet on Israel over declining Europe.
This thread has to contain some of the strangest, most ignorant American claims out there.
- Italy's economy is based on tourism. No, it's based on machinery, fashion items, food products, automotive parts, and pharmaceuticals. It may have it's problems but it's still either the 12th or 8th largest economy in the world, based on GDP.
- Since Germany is universally acknowledged as the unofficial EU leader, no Italy is unlikely to take over the EU.
- Ireland is not the richest country in Europe. It's a poorer country than many EU member states but attracts foreign investment due to favourable tax advantages from companies which are not Irish owned. This makes it prohibitively expensive for many Irish people to live where the jobs are. Outside those areas, it's extremely cheap to buy property in due to low salaries and lack of employment.
- Israel is an over populated desertified dry arid small country with unstable neighbours and ongoing internal terrorism issues, not an attractive destination to move to.
- Most European countries are not in decline. They are in fact a dream to live in compared to many parts of the US, which is increasingly seen by many of us, as being similar in terms of quality of life to India. Not quite first world. Western European countries do not have dead bodies lying in the streets or homeless people in their major cities causing social problems or living in tin shacks in rural areas. They do not have people dying because they cannot afford healthcare. They have maternity employment rights, annual leave of at least 5 weeks guaranteed in law, affordable tertiary education, life expectancy over the age of 80 (in France it's 86), good public transport and urban infrastructure such as pavements, etc.
I think a lot of us over here increasingly view the US as a failing country and very similar to the third world in many ways. Your life expectancy is shockingly low! Your property prices outside the main centres are so low that most of us Europeans can easily afford to buy a second family sized home as a holiday home - several of my friends have ones in Florida - or a small farm somewhere really rural.
I think whats also noticeable amongst many Americans is how rough-mouthed they can be. By rough mouthed, I mean that they tend to be one abusive very quickly in discussiins, because either their parents or their educators haven't taught them many if the basic skills used in social intercourse. If yiu meet an Italian, invariably they will be able to hold a reasoned, informed discussion on a number of topics. The Italian education system is excellent at all levels. So many Americans OTOH seems unaware that the way they speak to others immediately identifies them as coming from a really poor uobringing. And that's without all of the shouting and yelling in public that so many Americans unfurtunately do.