All the naiive on LRC say it is the shoes that are causing marathon and athletic records to drop left and right. But it is not the shoes, it is new classes of PEDs as evidenced by what has been happening in pro cycling for the last 5 years where they don't wear Nike shoes but are seeing power and climbing records that makes EPO fueled Lance look like a Sunday club rider. Whereas Lance has threshold power of 6-6.2 watts/kg, the top pros are now going 6.8 watts/kg and we are not even in Tour de France season yet.
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what kind of new PEDs do you suppose dominate the doping market these days? Have we even heard of them?
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Have the Brojos been purposely covering this up by blaming the shoes?
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Why Times Keep Falling wrote:
All the naiive on LRC say it is the shoes that are causing marathon and athletic records to drop left and right. But it is not the shoes, it is new classes of PEDs as evidenced by what has been happening in pro cycling for the last 5 years where they don't wear Nike shoes but are seeing power and climbing records that makes EPO fueled Lance look like a Sunday club rider. Whereas Lance has threshold power of 6-6.2 watts/kg, the top pros are now going 6.8 watts/kg and we are not even in Tour de France season yet.
Lance has stated in interviews that his threshold power when fully doped was 7.0 watts/kg. Wake me when they start cranking out 7.5+ w/kg.
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More like 6.4 watts per kilo for 24 minutes with a tailwind.
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Black Kettle wrote:
Why Times Keep Falling wrote:
All the naiive on LRC say it is the shoes that are causing marathon and athletic records to drop left and right. But it is not the shoes, it is new classes of PEDs as evidenced by what has been happening in pro cycling for the last 5 years where they don't wear Nike shoes but are seeing power and climbing records that makes EPO fueled Lance look like a Sunday club rider. Whereas Lance has threshold power of 6-6.2 watts/kg, the top pros are now going 6.8 watts/kg and we are not even in Tour de France season yet.
Lance has stated in interviews that his threshold power when fully doped was 7.0 watts/kg. Wake me when they start cranking out 7.5+ w/kg.
Nope. Not even close.
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Not saying you're wrong about PEDs being involved, but bike tech advances also contribute to faster riding, just like the super shoes.
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Black Kettle wrote:
Lance has stated in interviews that his threshold power when fully doped was 7.0 watts/kg. Wake me when they start cranking out 7.5+ w/kg.
Nope. Not even close.
Are you arguing with me or Lance because he's the one that said it.
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Are the bikers transracial Kenyans? I've heard that EPO doesn't work on Kenyans
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Black Kettle wrote:
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Nope. Not even close.
Are you arguing with me or Lance because he's the one that said it.
Lance wants everyone to think he was a bada$$. Hes living up to the stereotype.
Anyway, you don't know anything about cycling power outputs, so there's that too.
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Bullet the Blue Sky wrote:
Not saying you're wrong about PEDs being involved, but bike tech advances also contribute to faster riding, just like the super shoes.
What's a PED? Really, do you believe the hype?
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lol. Not sure what you're agenda is but you clearly don't know what you think you know.
This took me all of about 10 seconds to Google. My experience as a pro cyclist who was in the lab every 6 weeks for several years wasn't even required.
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Black Kettle wrote:
lol. Not sure what you're agenda is but you clearly don't know what you think you know.
This took me all of about 10 seconds to Google. My experience as a pro cyclist who was in the lab every 6 weeks for several years wasn't even required.
Made up numbers. Do you even bike?
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Black Kettle wrote:
My experience as a pro cyclist who was in the lab every 6 weeks for several years wasn't even required.
Are you lying or just an idiot?
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Black Kettle wrote:
lol. Not sure what you're agenda is but you clearly don't know what you think you know.
This took me all of about 10 seconds to Google. My experience as a pro cyclist who was in the lab every 6 weeks for several years wasn't even required.
Made up numbers. Do you even bike?
Take the L
The mountain time trial was the 16th stage in 2004. No chance he was at his best after 15 days in the saddle. Plus, I assume this is calculated power to weight based on his finishing time. Lots of lost power just maneuvering your bike through the switchbacks and inefficiency with variable grade.
At peak fitness (and peak doping) Lance was likely at 7.5 w/kg in the lab.
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Take the L wrote:
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Made up numbers. Do you even bike?
Take the L
The mountain time trial was the 16th stage in 2004. No chance he was at his best after 15 days in the saddle. Plus, I assume this is calculated power to weight based on his finishing time. Lots of lost power just maneuvering your bike through the switchbacks and inefficiency with variable grade.
At peak fitness (and peak doping) Lance was likely at 7.5 w/kg in the lab.
These are made up numbers. They are greatly exaggerated. Do you even bike?
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Black Kettle wrote:
My experience as a pro cyclist who was in the lab every 6 weeks for several years wasn't even required.
Are you lying or just an idiot?
Wow. You're bitter about something. Don't you have a dog to kick or pillow to scream into?
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Black Kettle wrote:
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Are you lying or just an idiot?
Wow. You're bitter about something. Don't you have a dog to kick or pillow to scream into?
You present made up numbers as facts.
You don't actually know anything about power outputs yet you wish to be taken seriously?
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Take the L wrote:
Take the L
The mountain time trial was the 16th stage in 2004. No chance he was at his best after 15 days in the saddle. Plus, I assume this is calculated power to weight based on his finishing time. Lots of lost power just maneuvering your bike through the switchbacks and inefficiency with variable grade.
At peak fitness (and peak doping) Lance was likely at 7.5 w/kg in the lab.
These are made up numbers. They are greatly exaggerated. Do you even bike?
What’s made up?
Lance’s weight? The weight of his bike? Elevation gain up Alpe D’Huez? Air resistance? laws of physics? or math?
You sound like a nutter.
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