And firearms are the leading cause of death for kids in the US. So, banning guns would go a long way towards saving children both at home and in school. Thanks for walking right into that one.
Repeating the same lie over and over again doesn't make true there Goebbels...
How many times do I have to show you the actual data from the CDC before you'll quit lying about this??
The top three causes are accidental, death, suicide, and homicide. Gun deaths contribute to all three.
Gun deaths recently surpassed deaths by automobile accidents.
certainly one could lump or split data to make gun deaths appear less than another category (for instance, if you made a category for all traumatic deaths, other than gun deaths, that would be larger). Your reference doesn’t do that however. You have misread the report.
I told you on Purim: I know what happens to your kind.
Your kind burned Magnus Hirschfeld's life's work, but his student Harry Benjamin revived it and carried it forward, that my people may be free and happy in the world.
Your kind burned six million of my people, but we survived as we survived countless evildoers before, we hanged ten of the biggest Nazis like the ten sons of Haman, and we took back Israel and Jerusalem for the first time in 2,000 years.
Go on, throw in your lot with the thousand-year Reich that didn't come close to a thousand weeks. I know what happens to your kind.
Did I mention 30 people a year are killed by dogs?
Even 1 death is horrible but it is wildly dishonest to pretend this is an epidemic.
This shooter planned to shoot up a different school. She determined there was too much security that the other school an opted for the school with less security.
The easy fix is more security not trying to pull 400 million guns out of circulation.
You keep making points by comparing deaths in the total US population by dogs and bees, to gun homicides only in schools. That's not a valid argument.
It's 30 deaths by dog and over 19,000 homicides by guns. That's a similar comparison within a population.
We were talking about school shootings specifically.
19,000 is a completely made up number.
The average is less than 12,000 and the overwhelming majority of those 12,000 are gang related.
I bring up the dogs to highlight how much the media is sensationalizing the numbers.
Even if we go with your completely made up 19,000 that's a miniscule number in a country with 330,000,000 people in it.
100,000 people are poisoned to death every year.
47,000 people are killed in car crashes every year.
45,000 people fall off of something and die every year.
Yet somehow, people think homicide is the #1 cause of child death in America and continue to repeat the lie even after they're shown it's not true.
Listening to the people in this thread, it appears to me the solution is so simple: we need to outlaw insanity.
What's that you say? We can't legislate away insanity? Dang ok, well maybe we should just make it so that you can't buy insane automatic rifles like the ones used in all of these mass shootings.
Also, I hear people like MTG advocating for more guns in schools and for teachers to be armed. That's fascinating. If we trust teachers to have guns in school, we should also consider letting them be responsible for picking the textbooks and novels in our kids' curricula. Wait, what? The same voices have been attacking teachers for picking certain books over others? Ugh, this is confusing...
All idiotic leftist bureaucrats know is "MOAR LEGISLATION!!!" as if pouring money and changing laws is how societal change really happens. It's definitely a useful tactic, but banning things won't fix the mental health crisis happening.
Good luck fixing mental health Dr. Let it Rupp.
That'll be awesome when we never have to worry about random people going nuts and hurting others. When will that magical event happen?
All idiotic leftist bureaucrats know is "MOAR LEGISLATION!!!" as if pouring money and changing laws is how societal change really happens. It's definitely a useful tactic, but banning things won't fix the mental health crisis happening.
Good luck fixing mental health Dr. Let it Rupp.
That'll be awesome when we never have to worry about random people going nuts and hurting others. When will that magical event happen?
Conservatives bringing up mental health is my favorite part. You know; that empathetic bunch..
The top three causes are accidental, death, suicide, and homicide. Gun deaths contribute to all three.
Gun deaths recently surpassed deaths by automobile accidents.
certainly one could lump or split data to make gun deaths appear less than another category (for instance, if you made a category for all traumatic deaths, other than gun deaths, that would be larger). Your reference doesn’t do that however. You have misread the report.
That's just dishonest. Accidental shootings accounted for 158 people in the highest year on record and many of those were people the kid killed not the kid themselves.
About 25,000 children age 1-18 die every year.
These are exceedingly rare as are child suicides by firearm.
I told you on Purim: I know what happens to your kind.
Your kind burned Magnus Hirschfeld's life's work, but his student Harry Benjamin revived it and carried it forward, that my people may be free and happy in the world.
Your kind burned six million of my people, but we survived as we survived countless evildoers before, we hanged ten of the biggest Nazis like the ten sons of Haman, and we took back Israel and Jerusalem for the first time in 2,000 years.
Go on, throw in your lot with the thousand-year Reich that didn't come close to a thousand weeks. I know what happens to your kind.
I’m more than happy that Israel exists today, but let’s not go overboard and say you took it back. America and the west gave it back to you.
Like all good people, I'm glad the evil scumbag who did this is dead. It's awful that three innocent children died.
Now, for all who love what America is and could be, I say loud and clear to our enemies: you will NOT make this your Reichstag fire to ostracize and demonize trans people, nor will you succeed in using this to disarm the hundreds of millions of peaceful gun owners who have never and will never commit this or any other crime of violence.
There seems to be little demonization of trans people. But I do hope we soon come around to realizing that their severe problems are not solved by horrific surgeries, onslaughts of cross biological-sex hormones and a barrage of biological-sex hormone suppressors so that they can exist in their true bodies rather than the ones they were somehow allegedly wrongly born into.
Just last night I had to complete a medical form asking which sex I was "assigned at birth" for an upcoming medical appointment. My sex at birth was observed and recognized; it was not assigned. The health care industry is accommodating, enabling and even propelling this trans-activism insanity.
"Assigned at birth" is terminology I don't care for.
You're completely ignorant about the benefits of hormonal and surgical transition for those who need it, and the fact that the conversion therapies you support have been shown time and again not to do anything positive for trans people. Trans people have been transitioning in a modern sense for 70+ years, and in more limited ways for as long as there have been cis people. It's not some mad scientist dreaming this stuff up last week.
You're clearly not paying attention if you think trans people aren't being demonized, but to be fair it's been ramping up fast. Rocky, though a bit more open about his hatred, is representative of a lot of social conservatives in the US who see all trans people as child molesters, who want to "eradicate transgenderism", who are passing, or trying to pass, laws to force trans children to detransition regardless of their needs or the opinion of their doctors (Kentucky), to take children away from parents if either children or parents realize they are trans and begin or continue to transition (Florida), to declare it illegal for any trans person to be in public if children might see them (West Virginia), and more (wait a few days and there'll be more still, at this rate).
All idiotic leftist bureaucrats know is "MOAR LEGISLATION!!!" as if pouring money and changing laws is how societal change really happens. It's definitely a useful tactic, but banning things won't fix the mental health crisis happening.
Good luck fixing mental health Dr. Let it Rupp.
That'll be awesome when we never have to worry about random people going nuts and hurting others. When will that magical event happen?
I mean guns have been ubiquitous in US culture ever since the beginning, yet these random mass shootings are a modern phenomenon. But yeah, it's the guns, ban guns the problem goes away. You're totally not being naïve or lazy.
There seems to be little demonization of trans people. But I do hope we soon come around to realizing that their severe problems are not solved by horrific surgeries, onslaughts of cross biological-sex hormones and a barrage of biological-sex hormone suppressors so that they can exist in their true bodies rather than the ones they were somehow allegedly wrongly born into.
Just last night I had to complete a medical form asking which sex I was "assigned at birth" for an upcoming medical appointment. My sex at birth was observed and recognized; it was not assigned. The health care industry is accommodating, enabling and even propelling this trans-activism insanity.
"Assigned at birth" is terminology I don't care for.
You're completely ignorant about the benefits of hormonal and surgical transition for those who need it, and the fact that the conversion therapies you support have been shown time and again not to do anything positive for trans people. Trans people have been transitioning in a modern sense for 70+ years, and in more limited ways for as long as there have been cis people. It's not some mad scientist dreaming this stuff up last week.
You're clearly not paying attention if you think trans people aren't being demonized, but to be fair it's been ramping up fast. Rocky, though a bit more open about his hatred, is representative of a lot of social conservatives in the US who see all trans people as child molesters, who want to "eradicate transgenderism", who are passing, or trying to pass, laws to force trans children to detransition regardless of their needs or the opinion of their doctors (Kentucky), to take children away from parents if either children or parents realize they are trans and begin or continue to transition (Florida), to declare it illegal for any trans person to be in public if children might see them (West Virginia), and more (wait a few days and there'll be more still, at this rate).
We can only hope those types of laws pass, and many more strict ones against Trannys. They are Satanic degenerates and anyone who's pushing that agenda to confuse children and help them mutilate themselves are even worse than the young people that are impressionable and being groomed towards that lifestyle in the first place.
That'll be awesome when we never have to worry about random people going nuts and hurting others. When will that magical event happen?
Conservatives bringing up mental health is my favorite part. You know; that empathetic bunch..
I posted a video a few pages back of a liberal victim blaming the parents of the kids' who died because of the legislation related to transgenders recently passed in TN. Liberal "compassion and empathy" is mere lip service in order to appear morally superior and gain power/attention. Don't act like people don't see through the virtue signaling.
*points* "Look! The 30 page school shooting thread on a fvcking running site has been reduced to immovable political zealots who had nothing productive to do today!"
I told you on Purim: I know what happens to your kind.
Your kind burned Magnus Hirschfeld's life's work, but his student Harry Benjamin revived it and carried it forward, that my people may be free and happy in the world.
Your kind burned six million of my people, but we survived as we survived countless evildoers before, we hanged ten of the biggest Nazis like the ten sons of Haman, and we took back Israel and Jerusalem for the first time in 2,000 years.
Go on, throw in your lot with the thousand-year Reich that didn't come close to a thousand weeks. I know what happens to your kind.
I’m more than happy that Israel exists today, but let’s not go overboard and say you took it back. America and the west gave it back to you.
Americans everywhere and Jews everywhere are equally my people, but yes, we should never think we achieved freedom by ourselves alone. We did hold Israel against the entire Arab world repeatedly, and by all rights, 2,000 years after dispossession, there's no way there should have been anyone to give it back to. Yet there was. That in itself counts for a lot.
This thread isn't about Israel though. I only brought it up to remind someone glorying in daydreams of Nazism how completely his evil idols failed.
I’m more than happy that Israel exists today, but let’s not go overboard and say you took it back. America and the west gave it back to you.
Americans everywhere and Jews everywhere are equally my people, but yes, we should never think we achieved freedom by ourselves alone. We did hold Israel against the entire Arab world repeatedly, and by all rights, 2,000 years after dispossession, there's no way there should have been anyone to give it back to. Yet there was. That in itself counts for a lot.
This thread isn't about Israel though. I only brought it up to remind someone glorying in daydreams of Nazism how completely his evil idols failed.
You suffer from the arrested development that permeates your cult
Americans everywhere and Jews everywhere are equally my people, but yes, we should never think we achieved freedom by ourselves alone. We did hold Israel against the entire Arab world repeatedly, and by all rights, 2,000 years after dispossession, there's no way there should have been anyone to give it back to. Yet there was. That in itself counts for a lot.
This thread isn't about Israel though. I only brought it up to remind someone glorying in daydreams of Nazism how completely his evil idols failed.
You suffer from the arrested development that permeates your cult
I never suffered from Arrested Development. That was a great show. Netflix ending season 4 on a cliffhanger made season 5 a bit of a mess, though.
The top three causes are accidental, death, suicide, and homicide. Gun deaths contribute to all three.
Gun deaths recently surpassed deaths by automobile accidents.
certainly one could lump or split data to make gun deaths appear less than another category (for instance, if you made a category for all traumatic deaths, other than gun deaths, that would be larger). Your reference doesn’t do that however. You have misread the report.
That's just dishonest. Accidental shootings accounted for 158 people in the highest year on record and many of those were people the kid killed not the kid themselves.
About 25,000 children age 1-18 die every year.
These are exceedingly rare as are child suicides by firearm.
You have lied to promote your agenda.
There are approximately 3000 childhood suicides by children in the United states each year. Combine that with the homicides and accidents and you get 4357 deaths by firearm versus 4112 deaths by motor vehicles. As I mentioned, there are 3879 deaths by other injuries so if you chose to combine those with motor vehicles, you could get a number that exceeds the number of firearm deaths. That doesn’t strike me as a single cause of death, though. This data can be found in articles by the Kaiser family foundation, and the New England Journal of Medicine.