UVA No Longer Hosting 2023 NCAA XC Nationals? That's what their email today said

They should do it in Stillwater every year

How does someone mistake "in lieu of" for "before"?

video of ACC championships goes through the course

starting area is too small, it narrows too quickly, and the finish is really crappy with several 90 degree turns extremely close to the finish. you don't get the same long straight away finish that makes for exciting sprints.

Well UVA is a top tier academic institution (AAU, Pubic Ivy, and all) so there is that to consider.

Has there been any real analysis of traffic matters in relation to the one lane bridge to get there?

The Virginia football team will also be hosting Duke on the same day. How will this impact the town and hotel availability? Will teams be in Harrisonburg?

If Albemarle would relax their AirBnB restrictions, there’d be tons of more places to stay nearby. it’s very difficult for people in the surrounding area to get approval for rental properties.

Traffic coming into Panorama from Earlysville Road can be somewhat backed up. That’s probably a bigger concern than hotel rooms. Plan on arriving earlier.

I just commented this about the traffic. I think that’s a legit problem. I drive past Panorama road every day on my way to work. It’s a super tiny road for that many teams/spectators to come in on.

I don’t think the football game will be too much of an issue. The football stadium and the cross country course are far enough apart that XC folks can lodge further away from campus.

Personally, I’d recommend staying in Waynesboro and driving in.

That's the direction I was going to recommend. For Canes vs Virginia football games I normally sightsee along I-81 and then stay in the Staunton area the night before the game. I was there for the 4 overtime no-touchdown thriller last October.

I was actually hoping to catch a women's swimming meet, given how dominant they are right now with Douglass and the Walsh sisters.

Exactly what I thought...Lehigh was used before with success..long time ago..but still. That would be great.

Its not duke fans travelling up for the game. Its the UVA fans. They come from all over the state and stay in hotels for home games. Some just come once a season, for the biggest home game of the year. This is the biggest one other than maybe Tech - UVA and if Tech hasn't done well in recent years, they will opt for this one. Looks like Va Tech had a terrible season last year. Charlottesville doesn't have as many hotels as a big city and they also get filled up by fall tourism - people from the coast coming out to hike and see the fall colors. I suppose the solution for people flying in is just to stay in richmond a bit over an hour away, since they are flying into there anyways.

There are several areas between Richmond and Charlottesville on I-64 that have lodging as well. I know I wouldn't want to have to drive out of downtown Richmond the morning of NCAAs to make it to Panorama. That will take you closer to 90+ minutes.

they dont want it in panorama because its such a hard course

The problem is the hay bales need to be removed for nationals. It is 500 meters to the bales and there is only a 9m gap between them. This was OK for ACCs but will not be enough for NCAAs.

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Lenny - you have hit on the one negative with Panorama. The narrow road and the one lane bridge impairs traffic flow. It was not a big deal when I attended the ACC meet, but with a larger audience it likely will be a problem. Police will be needed to assist with traffic flow well down the road. The course itself is great and it has plenty of room the first 1000 meters.

It doesn't look like a great course, but it has some turns and some hills and some woods. They should maybe work on the start, getting 250 people down to 12 across by 600 meters is going to be a moving mosh pit.

Huntsville, AL would be a great Venue. They have hosted Regionals a number of times along with other major meets. The city does a great job. All trails lead to Huntsville!

Furman would be great.

Furman’s course sucks.