The current group of American marathoners need to be forcibly retired. They just have not cut it.

seem to recall Rupp running 2:06 about 15 months ago in Chicago

Run faster and displace one of them. Otherwise, be quiet.

It's gonna take a world-class talent to compete with the Africans in the marathon. And even then, you get a Dathan Ritzenhein who just couldn't quite master the event.

I know it's sad, but - we will never see American dominance on the roads.

Some of these collegiate sub 4s should move up. They need to put in the mileage.

If you're only running 2:11+ and are 'professional' then yes. But if you're someone who's running 2:11-2:15 while working a full time job as many people are doing, then keep doing you.

Bingo. It's easy to talk trash about people who are faster than you. Go beat them if you think they're so bad. The roads are wide open.

It’s not the starting QB’s fault the team doesn’t have someone better. He’s doing the best he can and someone has to take the snaps.

I didn't choose marathoning as my profession - they did. They don't have to completely give up running. They can clean up at their local turkey trot impressing the locals with a 14:53.

What are you, a communist? It's a free country, my dude. If companies want to sponsor someone else, they can. If someone else wants to train harder and run faster, there are plenty of coaches to work with. The current crop of pro marathoners aren't stopping anyone else, so until someone better comes along (by running faster, not by whining on a message board), they're all we've got.

How does someone running what you consider a slow marathon prevent others from having a "chance to shine?" The idea that the current crop should be forced out is idiotic because a) there's no way or reason to do it and b) no one is being deprived of a chance to shine.

You have to be a zoomer

You’re an absolute loser

Talent nothing. Americans are too big and fat.

Raise them on low calorie diets that max out at 2000 per day in adulthood and there will be huge flocks of American bird-people to run 2:0x

I love the fact that young ignorant fans think the 4 minute mile is special.
Mercier scoring tables tells us that 4:00 mile equals a 2:14:19 marathon.

As others have said, the roads are wide open. However, I am pretty surprised that no American has come close to Hall’s 2:06 that he ran eons ago in London. Especially with the super shoes. People try to pretend that the super shoes aren’t a game changer, but they realistically are worth a second per lap on the track, and it really shows up in a marathon helping to defray the muscle fatigue. Today’s 2:06 is yesterday’s 2:08.

I love Mantz, and hopefully his grinding mindset will help cultivate the next generation of marathoners.

He said sub 4, try again

Well let's start here.

You at least have to be faster than the current woman's wr to run the US Olympic trials marathon

There shouldn't even be a trials marathon. That only rewards mediocrity.

Just send the top 3 runners faster than 2:06 in any certified marathon. If that's zero runners, so be it. I'm long since done dissing Rupp, but he needs to break 2:06 already if the best are at 2 flat.

It was their slavering support of the mediocre rupp that has caused this.

Why train hard when you can fluke an easy Olympics and then be idolised for breaking 2.10 occasionally?