If you're Washington, how do you run your team at NCAAs

Ok7272 wrote:

Trying to play armchair coach and to figure out how they score the most points at NCAAs.
Refresher: Brian Fay and Keiran Lumb are both sub-13:20 5K runners with consistency at getting All-American honors and placing high in big fields. Luke Houser, Joe Waksom, and Nathan Green are running great mile times. Cass Elliott is an 800 guy who ran 1:47. Houser placed in the 40s in the NCAAs cross-country, so I'd probably try him out in the 3K.

For DMR, I'd run Fay in the mile leg, Cass at 800 and Waksom (who ran 2:18 in the 1000) in the 1200 leg. Fay can be in the 3K the next day. I think any of the top 5 would be within at least 2 seconds ahead of the rest of the field but Fay and Lumb are the most consistent.

I'd put Lumb, Nathan Green, and Waksom in the mile.

I also am wondering how easy it is to win the DMR if I put say their #3 or 4 guy like Houser and Green in the mile leg since they seem at least 4 or 5 seconds ahead of the competition on paper.

I think maybe Georgeotwn, Texas, Olahoma State, Iowa State, and Stanford can challenge, but I also think Stanford is going to put their three main guys on long distances and that just leaves a 3:57 miler.

RichardRider wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

this is fun.

DMRs are won with the last leg. Waksom is the fastest and the best tactical racer, so he’s the obvious choice to anchor.

Funny thing about championship meets is they rarely go to form. There's no "for sure" points and now is not the time to be counting them. Too early. Mid Feb will be another turning point for major performances. Oregons indoor championship a couple years ago was a bit unusual. Still had a sprinter, jumper and thrower contribute to the team score I believe. Wash can score in a few events. Tricky when 12 guys are witbin a couple seconds of each other on the starting line. Those races are all about position, not single file and time trialing on a 300+ track with nothing to lose.

As an armchair quarterback, Getting as many qualified in as many events first, then strategize after conference. What's the health status of the guys, what schedule is manageable for maximal effort then let the chips fall.

Unless you have a legit chance at trophy podium, you look out for the individual best chances witnout being greedy. The outdoor season is more important.

RichardRider wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

this is fun.

DMRs are won with the last leg. Waksom is the fastest and the best tactical racer, so he’s the obvious choice to anchor.

Funny thing about championship meets is they rarely go to form. There's no "for sure" points and now is not the time to be counting them. Too early. Mid Feb will be another turning point for major performances. Oregons indoor championship a couple years ago was a bit unusual. Still had a sprinter, jumper and thrower contribute to the team score I believe. Wash can score in a few events. Tricky when 12 guys are witbin a couple seconds of each other on the starting line. Those races are all about position, not single file and time trialing on a 300+ track with nothing to lose.

As an armchair quarterback, Getting as many qualified in as many events first, then strategize after conference. What's the health status of the guys, what schedule is manageable for maximal effort then let the chips fall.

Unless you have a legit chance at trophy podium, you look out for the individual best chances witnout being greedy. The outdoor season is more important.

Hurdles400m wrote:

RichardRider wrote:

Funny thing about championship meets is they rarely go to form. There's no "for sure" points and now is not the time to be counting them. Too early. Mid Feb will be another turning point for major performances. Oregons indoor championship a couple years ago was a bit unusual. Still had a sprinter, jumper and thrower contribute to the team score I believe. Wash can score in a few events. Tricky when 12 guys are witbin a couple seconds of each other on the starting line. Those races are all about position, not single file and time trialing on a 300+ track with nothing to lose.

As an armchair quarterback, Getting as many qualified in as many events first, then strategize after conference. What's the health status of the guys, what schedule is manageable for maximal effort then let the chips fall.

Unless you have a legit chance at trophy podium, you look out for the individual best chances witnout being greedy. The outdoor season is more important.

UO's track coaches, transplanted to the UW, are all for distance. Does the UW really think that they can win NCAA indoors with seven milers under four minutes, rather than a balanced team scoring points in the hurdles, sprints, jumps and throws?

Ok7272 wrote:

Trying to play armchair coach and to figure out how they score the most points at NCAAs.
Refresher: Brian Fay and Keiran Lumb are both sub-13:20 5K runners with consistency at getting All-American honors and placing high in big fields. Luke Houser, Joe Waksom, and Nathan Green are running great mile times. Cass Elliott is an 800 guy who ran 1:47. Houser placed in the 40s in the NCAAs cross-country, so I'd probably try him out in the 3K.

For DMR, I'd run Fay in the mile leg, Cass at 800 and Waksom (who ran 2:18 in the 1000) in the 1200 leg. Fay can be in the 3K the next day. I think any of the top 5 would be within at least 2 seconds ahead of the rest of the field but Fay and Lumb are the most consistent.

I'd put Lumb, Nathan Green, and Waksom in the mile.

I also am wondering how easy it is to win the DMR if I put say their #3 or 4 guy like Houser and Green in the mile leg since they seem at least 4 or 5 seconds ahead of the competition on paper.

I think maybe Georgeotwn, Texas, Olahoma State, Iowa State, and Stanford can challenge, but I also think Stanford is going to put their three main guys on long distances and that just leaves a 3:57 miler.