Nah. It's the track for sure. I've run in most super spikes and many track surfaces. BU is special. Not only that, but loads of people show up there specifically to run fast without worrying about place. That's also new for the pro scene in January/February.
Two-hundred meter sprinters indoors have to be careful not to sprint with their full stride and suffer lane violation. Turns on 200m indoor tracks are still too tight for 400m gals & guys. Indoor 200m tracks only have athletes racing faster than they are capable outdoors, 1500m to 2 miles. If it were the shoes, 1000m and shorter gals & guys would race faster than outdoors too.
Technology changes and improves. If everyone is wearing super spikes or super shoes, what does it matter? Should the Indy 500 go back to everyone racing in Model Ts? Should the riders in the Tour de France go back to how it was in the 1940s & 50s and everyone riding bikes that weigh 30+ pounds?
This has been discussed ad nauseam. It is what it is. Live with it.
Lol! And times have been through the roof ever since! Are you insane??
Again, if everyone is using the same technology, what is the big deal? Isn’t it still a level playing field? (I’m not considering the possibility of PEDs or anything like that)
Its a combination of all things mentioned here so far. Look at hs performances as well. Yes, shoes and fast tracks but i think because of the assistance, kids to pros are motivated to train more/harder to get to those record performance levels. Think about the psyche that results in daily improvements with that assistance. People actually think they are better than Jim Ryun, Steve Scott, Seb Coe etc...at a much younger and inexperienced age. Then the rest of us think these current record breakers should be hauling in the medals when in reality everyone else in the world has the same advantages but are truly better as proven when it counts. Its all about the now but people want to compare to history which is natural.
Carbon fiber replaced wood, sweedish steel, fiberglass, etc...in golf, tennis and track. Once many people got their hands on the tech, history and the way people play the game changes and so to the end results. Evolution.
Still, strange to see 8 kids from the same team run under 4. But, that 8th guy is still the 8th guy on that team and hes going nowhere. Cant score in a conference meet or even make the traveling squad let alone nationals. Just another member of a fast moving herd.
Technology changes and improves. If everyone is wearing super spikes or super shoes, what does it matter? Should the Indy 500 go back to everyone racing in Model Ts? Should the riders in the Tour de France go back to how it was in the 1940s & 50s and everyone riding bikes that weigh 30+ pounds?
This has been discussed ad nauseam. It is what it is. Live with it.
No one is "crying about it". people are simply recognizing the reality of the situation, which some refuse to accept/acknowledge. the bottom line is: one can no longer compare times from the present to times from the past even a little bit.
You seriously think Woody Kincaid is as good or better than Kenenisa Bekele ?? What was the Bekele's indoor world record? 12:49 or 1250?
It's a completely new era and times just don't mean what they did. That's just a plain hard fact. Swimming decided to ban swimsuits because they wanted historical times to mean something. Track decided not to go in that direction.
But now that we know this is the case maybe one should not hyperventilate over "mind blowing" times. Maybe we should not be that excited about a 2-hour Marathon. Because we have little to compare it to except to current runners. It's a breakthrough in technology not a breakthrough and human performance
8 Runners from one team break the 4 minute mile. Should we celebrate or say: Um.... "good times" don't really matter/ are hard to determine now. Relative to the Past doesn't matter. Let's see which places they get in the big races and that is the only yardstick.
I say keep the rubber tracks but make everyone run naked. Solves 2 problems. No advantage for equipment and no advantage for "equipment" in a womans race if you're picking up what im putting down.
The circa-2022 state of the "super spikes" evidence: "In contrast to super shoes, no published scientific data on the benefits of super spikes over traditional spikes are available. Whereas previous studies have compared running economy of aerobic efforts in traditional spikes versus marathon racers, and others have looked at the effect of increased longitudinal bending stiffness on sprint performance, research into the benefits of spikes on middle distance performance is lacking and the benefits of super spikes specifically at any distance have yet to be explored."
Technology changes and improves. If everyone is wearing super spikes or super shoes, what does it matter? Should the Indy 500 go back to everyone racing in Model Ts? Should the riders in the Tour de France go back to how it was in the 1940s & 50s and everyone riding bikes that weigh 30+ pounds?
This has been discussed ad nauseam. It is what it is. Live with it.
No one is "crying about it". people are simply recognizing the reality of the situation, which some refuse to accept/acknowledge. the bottom line is: one can no longer compare times from the present to times from the past even a little bit.
You seriously think Woody Kincaid is as good or better than Kenenisa Bekele ?? What was the Bekele's indoor world record? 12:49 or 1250?
It's a completely new era and times just don't mean what they did. That's just a plain hard fact. Swimming decided to ban swimsuits because they wanted historical times to mean something. Track decided not to go in that direction.
But now that we know this is the case maybe one should not hyperventilate over "mind blowing" times. Maybe we should not be that excited about a 2-hour Marathon. Because we have little to compare it to except to current runners. It's a breakthrough in technology not a breakthrough and human performance
8 Runners from one team break the 4 minute mile. Should we celebrate or say: Um.... "good times" don't really matter/ are hard to determine now. Relative to the Past doesn't matter. Let's see which places they get in the big races and that is the only yardstick.
Why do you think Kincaid isn't better (faster) than Bekele? Don't list career achievements.
The circa-2022 state of the "super spikes" evidence: "In contrast to super shoes, no published scientific data on the benefits of super spikes over traditional spikes are available. Whereas previous studies have compared running economy of aerobic efforts in traditional spikes versus marathon racers, and others have looked at the effect of increased longitudinal bending stiffness on sprint performance, research into the benefits of spikes on middle distance performance is lacking and the benefits of super spikes specifically at any distance have yet to be explored."
About 30+ years ago, millions of dollars were spent to determine that cow farts deplete the ozone.
