Hoka Mach 4 vs Puma Velocity Nitro 2

Go try them on. Take a look at saucony tempest too

mach 4 been working for me since they came out. they are cheap now too, with still a decent amount in stock most places.

I could try but the return policies mean if there's even a shred of wear they won't refund. Only the major manufacturers like Nike allow try before you buy, in the UK anyway.

How do they feel in terms of firmness? Thanks

Isn't it the Tempus? How is that different from the Triumph?

I like Saucony as a brand because I have never had a shoe from them that I didn't like. One of my favorite Saucony shoes was the Zealot ISO 3. It was basically a Kinvara with more cushioning. When I heard that they were going to quit making them, I bought 3 pairs. I have not found a suitable shoe similar to that one. The Endorphin Speed has been recommended. That sounds like a great shoe but not quite the same. I'm wondering if the Tempus might work.

So is Puma making good running shoes again? I haven't had a pair in years.

I run in the Mach 4, my daily trainer.

I like it a lot except for one problem. It runs too narrow for me in the forefoot. I didn’t notice any issue when I tried it on or even first ran in it. But as my mileage and runs increased its uncomfortable. It pinches the inside of both of my big toes after about 7 or 8 miles into a run so long runs in particular are uncomfortable.

It is the Tempus and it’s a stability shoe.

Someone else mentioned that the Mach 4 is cheap right now, that is true. I think the 5 might be a little wider in the toebox?

They are not a particularly firm shoe by any means. But not too soft either, at least IMO. I’m a lighter runner.

Thanks. They definitely would not work for me. Even the slightest hint of support/stability in a shoe will cause excruciating pain throughout the lateral sides of my feet.

Puma Velocity Nitro 2 has 10mm dop and should be automatically out of the race.

So Hoka Mach 5.

Both use EVA, old tech foam from yesteryear. Grab the Saucony Endorphin Speed instead.

Why? anything against 10 mm drop?

Yeah I'd like to get that shoe. Completely sold out in my size from what I can see.