Anyone know what these are?
Anyone know what these are?
The 5k one was probably run by some kid who had a final time of like 23 minutes and just jogged the whole way and went balls to the wall as soon as he could see the finish line.
yeah wrote:
The 5k one was probably run by some kid who had a final time of like 23 minutes and just jogged the whole way and went balls to the wall as soon as he could see the finish line.
I doubt it. A sprint for that type of kid would probably be around a 30 second 200. Its gotta be an elite race.
Bekele
Khalid Skah was well known for his blistering kick. I recall hearing that he ran 11.6 or so for the final 100m of a fast 5 or 10k.
Probably not the fastest closing 200 in history, but mighty impressive: when Dieter Baumann won the olympic 5000 in 1992 in 13:12, his final 200 was faster than the final 200 of the 800 meter winner (William Tanui) at the same olympics (and Tanui ran 1:43.66).
I'll throw one out and we'll see if anyone can top it. El Guerrouj ran 25 seconds for the last 200 at Athens.
2003 golden league races ... Abraham Chebii ... about 24 seconds
in 1995 Gebre ran his last 200m of the 10,000m in 23+. This was faster than the final 200m in the 8, 15 or 5k.
didn't Chebii close in a ridiculous time of 51 or 52 seconds in a 5k at the Prefontaine classic 2003???? Final time was around 13:10.
Chebii had the most explosive kick I've ever seen.
wannabekila wrote:
in 1995 Gebre ran his last 200m of the 10,000m in 23+. This was faster than the final 200m in the 8, 15 or 5k.
It was 25point, not 23. Put the hammer down right at the 200m mark. Still damn fast and just left the others looking like they were going backwards.
One place to look would be at some of Miruts Yifter's last 200m in races back in the late 70's. The man was blazingly quick at the end. Left Marty Liquori in his dust several times.
gotta second that one.....Chebii is/was ridiculous in the finish. It'll be interesting to see if he can come back from injury w/ his Bekele beating kick intact.
Anoraky stuff, but Khalid Skah was once timed at 11.9 for his final 100m in a 10k burn up with Salvatore Antibo, c 1991/92. Don't know preceding 100m but it wasn't much slower.
Some of you are pulling these figures out your rear without any clue, Geb's "23-point" being a prime example.
I've actually seen these races so I'll give real numbers:
1. Fastest 200 I can think of, but not the literal last 200 (it was from 4700-4900m of a 5K) was Bekele in Lausanne 2003 when he won with 13:06.23. His last 400 was 52.63, not the fastest ever, but that 200m section I mentioned was inside 24 seconds, 23.8 or 23.9. I kid you not. If you had seen it, you would have dropped your jaw. Took 10 strides and was 15-20m clear almost instantly.
Other candidates for fastest last 200 are Chebii, running 24.8-24.9 in Paris 2003 off a 12:53, Gebrselassie in 1995 in Gothenburg running 25.1 (only started his kick with 180m to go), El Guerrouj in Athens, 25-high, Bekele in Athens, 25-mid (9600-9800), and no doubt countless others. Coe ran 24-point in LA 1984, Cram ran 25 in his 3:46.32 mile WR; those are not 5 or 10K's, but a lot of people have been able to close that quickly.
2. For a 400m, the nod goes to Yifter. He ran 29-something for 10K in the Ethiopian Championships in 1978 (?) at altitude running 49.8 for the last 400. Morceli has had many races in that range, although most at 1500 and the mile, but did run 50-point in Zurich 1994. Ryun also ran under 49.00 seconds including a backstretch 100 of 11.6 in Dusseldorf, Germany, as well as a 36.4 last 300 once in what was a pretty quick race, although I don't remember the details.
Chebii ran 51.9 in 2003 at the Pre Classic 5K, with a winning time of 13:09. Yifter, Cova, and a lot of the 1980's guys were good off of slow paces, but Bekele ran 66 seconds for the last 500 (and 53.02 for the last 400) of an OR record 27:05. Put Bekele in a slow 10K, like the 27:20-28:00 races that were common throughout the 70's and the 80's, and almost for sure we would see a 50-52 last lap.
IIRC, it was the fastest finish of any Championship event that year of any distance over 400m. I thought it was 1996, not 1995 but I could be wrong. Also, as I recall he did not really put the hammer down until about 175m out and he cruised some the last 20m since he had a big lead, and there were talented kickers in that race.
wannabekila wrote:
in 1995 Gebre ran his last 200m of the 10,000m in 23+. This was faster than the final 200m in the 8, 15 or 5k.
You've obviously never seen the race or, if you did, you're using a watch that loses 2 seconds out of every 25. Morceli ran his last 400 in the 15 that year in 51, so his last 200 was right about the same as Geb's, which was 25. The 5 had Kirui, who was never a kicker.
I thought that Morceli had a faster penultimate 200, and the 800 "should" be the fastest. Also, As I recall it was a Championship record for 10,000, so that the race was not too much of a case of waiting to the end and sprinting.
Ryun did not run under 50 for last 400 at Dusseldorf.