Quote: "Or, that could be 8x200 at 28, taking full rest in between so your blood's pH doesn't drop too much. If you go into acidosis, your season is basically done."
In the 1:56 800 meter thread, someone says the above about acidosis.
Can someone explain this to me? Why would going into acidosis in one tough workout ruin a season?
Maybe I don't understand acidosis... After all, I was never all that fast -- just a 1:59 800 runner.
A medical doctor told me when he practiced primary care, he saw it in older men & women who went through "boot camp-type training." Such as 35 plus year olds in law enforcement academy. One workout, no unless a person has a heart condition.
The problem with too much acidosis, is that after a certain point, I think it is 10+ mmol/liter blood lactate or higher, the mitochondria starts to become eroded, and loses its function, and mitochondria is very important for aerobic production of energy for use of running.
Does it take a super long time for mitochondria damage to repair?
Do you agree with the other poster's statement "season is done"?
Doing speed work is a boogeyman for many people on Letsrun, and they base their training philosophy around it.
You aren’t going to cause detrimental breakdown to your mitochondria in one day. It’s a result of mid-long term overtraining. Doing a 200m repeat session once every week or two won’t do that to you. Prime Centro was doing 200s year round and that worked just fine for him. Just make sure you aren’t hitting speed work every other day and you’ll be fine.
Quote: "Or, that could be 8x200 at 28, taking full rest in between so your blood's pH doesn't drop too much. If you go into acidosis, your season is basically done."
In the 1:56 800 meter thread, someone says the above about acidosis.
Can someone explain this to me? Why would going into acidosis in one tough workout ruin a season?
Maybe I don't understand acidosis... After all, I was never all that fast -- just a 1:59 800 runner.
WTF sort of nonsense is this? This seems like one of the worst "bro science" things I have ever read.
In hypoxic conditions, cells depend on anaerobic respiration, which results in extracellular acidosis. Khacho et al.find that acidosis serves a protective function, enhancing mitochondrial respiratory capacity and sustaining...
A medical doctor told me when he practiced primary care, he saw it in older men & women who went through "boot camp-type training." Such as 35 plus year olds in law enforcement academy. One workout, no unless a person has a heart condition.
Isn't that rhabdomylosis? It happens to ultra runners.
A medical doctor told me when he practiced primary care, he saw it in older men & women who went through "boot camp-type training." Such as 35 plus year olds in law enforcement academy. One workout, no unless a person has a heart condition.
Isn't that rhabdomylosis? It happens to ultra runners.
The doctor to whom I was referring is a friend from college. We still stay in touch. No. The conversation was regarding acidosis. We were doing track workouts. We discussed the likelihood that those in military special forces schools likely suffer acidosis but rarely are diagnosed because those suffering acidosis in military likely suffer in silence.
No, I do not agree with the person who said this comment. As other users have already said, getting upto that very high mmol range briefly once a week isn't going to be significant enough to hurt you. It will hurt you if you stay in that high mmol range for an extended period of time, ie 200s with not adequate enough rest, causing you to tie up. Just make sure you take necessary rest. And to my knowledge, the "mitochondria damage" is just erosion of the structures, meaning with enough prolonged damage, your mitochondria become the effect is that you become less efficient at using energy oxygen for energy output. The mitochondria cannot "repair" itself in the sense that you mean, because you will be at a lower fitness level aerobically, once you're mitochondria get damaged. To get your mitochondria back to full strength and better, more aerobic work must be done again, more tempos/threshold essentially. And as always easy volume must be kept up. So yeah, do 200s with GOOD rest, and you'll be A-Ok.
Isn't that rhabdomylosis? It happens to ultra runners.
The doctor to whom I was referring is a friend from college. We still stay in touch. No. The conversation was regarding acidosis. We were doing track workouts. We discussed the likelihood that those in military special forces schools likely suffer acidosis but rarely are diagnosed because those suffering acidosis in military likely suffer in silence.
you are deeply confused. I love how people mishear something once, then carry this special knowledge around with them for the rest of their life. 'suffer acidosis in silence' hilarious!
