How the hell do division 1 runners adjust so well to the 10K from 5K or 3 miles?

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2 years ago 09/29/2022 2:08pm EDT

You've got division 1 runners running 14:30 3 miles in high school and then literally their freshmen year of college, they can run double the distance at a faster pace. I'm doing more intense training in college as a division 3 runner and I can't run hold my 3 mile pace in an 8K. So, how are division 1 runners so easily able to run a 10K at a faster pace than their 3 mile pace? And for that matter, how are they able to get in that kind of shape so damn quickly? Are they on some kind of drugs? Is their cheating? It seems hardly human

2 years ago 09/29/2022 2:18pm EDT

re: ConfusedShowbizPizzaman

Did you run faster your senior year of high school than you did your junior year of high school? I did, and I kept improving for another two or three years.

A few buddies of mine who beat me when I was a high school freshman and sophomore tried to run in college, and neither made it. I ran a hilly 8K XC time trial and got in, going though 5K faster than I'd run the previous fall at state.

I ran more miles than ever before the summer before my college freshman year, ran a lot long tempos, and a few 5 and 10K races.

2 years ago 09/29/2022 7:44pm EDT

re: ConfusedShowbizPizzaman

they are more talented than you

2 years ago 09/29/2022 8:05pm EDT

re: ConfusedShowbizPizzaman

They run a lot more mileage and get in faster races with more competition, all on top of another year of development

2 years ago 09/29/2022 8:07pm EDT

re: ConfusedShowbizPizzaman

ConfusedShowbizPizzaman wrote:
and I can't run hold my 3 mile pace in an 8K. So, how are division 1 runners so easily able to run a 10K at a faster pace than their 3 mile pace? And for that matter, how are they able to get in that kind of shape so damn quickly? Are they on some kind of drugs? Is their cheating? It seems hardly human

Everyone I know went from running 40-50mpw in HS to 65-80 in college. That pretty much explains it...

2 years ago 09/29/2022 10:03pm EDT

re: ConfusedShowbizPizzaman

ConfusedShowbizPizzaman wrote:
You've got division 1 runners running 14:30 3 miles in high school and then literally their freshmen year of college, they can run double the distance at a faster pace. I'm doing more intense training in college as a division 3 runner and I can't run hold my 3 mile pace in an 8K. So, how are division 1 runners so easily able to run a 10K at a faster pace than their 3 mile pace? And for that matter, how are they able to get in that kind of shape so damn quickly? Are they on some kind of drugs? Is their cheating? It seems hardly human

It is partly a sampling bias. Many of the D1 first year men that are not ready to step up to 10k are redshirted. The ones you are impressed by are the ones that are best able to handle it and don’t need the redshirt year.

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