After the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta, the Braves tried out the javelin winner, the Czech Jan Zelezny. They didn't sign him, so I assume they didn't think enough of his chances to pay him more than he was making in the javelin (where I believe he was one of the all-time greats).
We had an all-American jav thrower on my team in college who was clocked at only 86 by one of the baseball coaches, which definitely isn’t pitcher material, especially for someone just chucking it and not actually pitching. Just one data point, but shows there isn’t a guaranteed correlation.
After the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta, the Braves tried out the javelin winner, the Czech Jan Zelezny. They didn't sign him, so I assume they didn't think enough of his chances to pay him more than he was making in the javelin (where I believe he was one of the all-time greats).
I was going to bring this up. Zelezny was reported to have thrown well over 90 mph which was fairly exclusive at that time. Like you said, this shows that there is a lot more to it than simply how fast you can throw.
After the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta, the Braves tried out the javelin winner, the Czech Jan Zelezny. They didn't sign him, so I assume they didn't think enough of his chances to pay him more than he was making in the javelin (where I believe he was one of the all-time greats).
I was going to bring this up. Zelezny was reported to have thrown well over 90 mph which was fairly exclusive at that time. Like you said, this shows that there is a lot more to it than simply how fast you can throw.
Maybe fairly exclusive to jav throwers, but certainly not in mlb. People have been throwing well over 90 for a long time and with accuracy in a real game. Just launching it in the general direction of home plate at over 90 while incredibly impressive, certainly doesn't mean anything about baseball talent. Probably most every mlb player can do that.
There's definitely going to be strong correlation between javelin distance and pitch speed. But like others have said, the mechanics are a little different. I think pitchers use their forearm, wrist, and fingers more. Far from guaranteed that elite javelin would translate to elite pitching and vice versa.
Maybe fairly exclusive to jav throwers, but certainly not in mlb. People have been throwing well over 90 for a long time and with accuracy in a real game. Just launching it in the general direction of home plate at over 90 while incredibly impressive, certainly doesn't mean anything about baseball talent. Probably most every mlb player can do that.
Seems that I recall the scouts being impressed with his velocity and using the word exclusive. I remember having the impression that his mid-upper 90's speed was grouped with a select few in MLB, but it is possible that they were referring to another demographic.
Baseballs are relatively light and the throwing motion is too different.
Javelin translates much better to throwing a football. Terry Bradshaw was a decent javelin thrower before becoming a Superbowl winning QB.
It's this. Hip-to-shoulder separation translates pretty well, but there are certain muscles in the shoulder and back that are very rubber-band like while throwing a baseball while being a more brute strength muscles when throwing a javelin or even football.
Javelin throw is not necessarily strongly correlated with pitching a baseball. Pitching a baseball well is about being a magician as much as ability to throw hard, especially for pitchers who cannot or whom are no longer able to throw over 95 m.p.h. If javelin throw is strongly correlated to throwing a ball, it is possibly strongly correlated to throwing Hail Mary pass in Am. football. Look at college and N.F.L. QBs throwing Hail Mary in slow motion then watch elite javelin throwers launch javelin.