It's been hash, adderall, references to past cocaine usage, references to past usage of psychedelic drugs, references to past or current psychotropic drugs, habitual marijuana, etc.
It's easy to say shut up and mind your business but...absolutely...NO.
This needs to be addressed.
I’m prescribed adderall. I smoke weed. I’ve tried cocaine, acid and shroom in college a few times. I also took prescription pain killers and watched a movie once with some friends in college too. The horror! Are you glad I addressed this? Now please go continue being a nerd and mind your own business. I’ll try just about everything once. If that kills me then so be it
real question - why would you waste your money mixing adderall and weed?
One helps you focus the other zones you out. This makes no sense to me.
After all the hours of suffering and pain I put in training there is no way I am going to risk it in race day.Tramadol gives me the perfect smooth marathon no way I am going to make apologies for using it .It's my choice .
Throughout different threads, a good (or bad?) portion of posters on letsrun are admitting to some form of drug usage (prescription or otherwise) and it's weird to realize that so many runners are under the actual influence of something harder than caffeine while some of us literally may be only under the influence of some red bull or even nothing when we do our workout.
so, what's with runners and drugs?
Red bull is worse than anything I take, prescription or otherwise.
I’m prescribed adderall. I smoke weed. I’ve tried cocaine, acid and shroom in college a few times. I also took prescription pain killers and watched a movie once with some friends in college too. The horror! Are you glad I addressed this? Now please go continue being a nerd and mind your own business. I’ll try just about everything once. If that kills me then so be it
real question - why would you waste your money mixing adderall and weed?
One helps you focus the other zones you out. This makes no sense to me.
I do the same. Adderall to help me focus, but sometimes it makes me a little too jittery. So a hit of weed sort of takes the edge off. Also, say I finish all my work, but I'm still "buzzing" from adderall. Weed can help me undo some of the effects.
real question - why would you waste your money mixing adderall and weed?
One helps you focus the other zones you out. This makes no sense to me.
I do the same. Adderall to help me focus, but sometimes it makes me a little too jittery. So a hit of weed sort of takes the edge off. Also, say I finish all my work, but I'm still "buzzing" from adderall. Weed can help me undo some of the effects.
why not just drink a cup of coffee?
No one form my era took adderall recreationally. The stuff we used was to zone out, not zone in. I don't really get drugs at all though.
I do the same. Adderall to help me focus, but sometimes it makes me a little too jittery. So a hit of weed sort of takes the edge off. Also, say I finish all my work, but I'm still "buzzing" from adderall. Weed can help me undo some of the effects.
why not just drink a cup of coffee?
No one form my era took adderall recreationally. The stuff we used was to zone out, not zone in. I don't really get drugs at all though.
I drink a lot of black tea, sometimes I just need something stronger. Also, I don't know what you mean by "my era", but you might want to look up the history of dexedrine and benzedrine. Unless you're older than 100, some of your peers were undoubtedly on the stuff. Maybe for weight loss, maybe for a long haul car ride, maybe for focus at work, or maybe they were just addicted.
No one form my era took adderall recreationally. The stuff we used was to zone out, not zone in. I don't really get drugs at all though.
I drink a lot of black tea, sometimes I just need something stronger. Also, I don't know what you mean by "my era", but you might want to look up the history of dexedrine and benzedrine. Unless you're older than 100, some of your peers were undoubtedly on the stuff. Maybe for weight loss, maybe for a long haul car ride, maybe for focus at work, or maybe they were just addicted.
It seems much more rampant lately than it was. I'm 38. When I was in high school I knew maybe 5 people who took it, in college I didn't know any. Maybe it was just the circle I was in, but as far as I remember, no one was taking it to study/work. If we needed to focus, we just wouldn't get f*cked up the night before.
No doubt people have been abusing it for as long as its been around though.
I’m prescribed adderall. I smoke weed. I’ve tried cocaine, acid and shroom in college a few times. I also took prescription pain killers and watched a movie once with some friends in college too. The horror! Are you glad I addressed this? Now please go continue being a nerd and mind your own business. I’ll try just about everything once. If that kills me then so be it
real question - why would you waste your money mixing adderall and weed?
One helps you focus the other zones you out. This makes no sense to me.
Sometimes people do drugs purely for fun (crazy, right?), and I’ve heard adderall and weed is enjoyable. At least to some people. I’ve never done adderall but weed and coffee has always been a favorite of mine and I would imagine it’s similar.
Drugs aren’t bad on their own, but they are often a bad influence in someone’s life. Weed ruins lives for sure, but there are disciplined people who can enjoy drugs recreationally without it being a problem. Your mileage may vary.
I see i was not only correct but also the problem is worse than I thought.
So what's the problem other than people doing things you wouldn't do?
The real problem especially for letsrun, and seeing that this really is an elephant in the room is that, at its fundamental level, those of you doing these drugs are thereby not training clean if you use them before a training session, and not racing clean if you use before a race. This is why I addressed letsrun specifically.
Just because you are not NCAA or International and thereby not tested just doesn't make you clean if you're using.
Well thanks so much for volunteering to be LR's hall monitor, but I think there's a jaywalker down the street that you need to go give a stern talking-to.
To answer the OP's question, LRC is not populated by dedicated runners still pursuing serious training. It is 90% hobby joggers that are either well past their best competitive days or mediocre age-group athletes still seeking relevance at local road races. Most are middle-aged suburban dads with full-time jobs, mortgages, kids, and boring marriages despite their bluster and braggadocio. Many of the most prolific posters do not even discuss running on this board. They are just regular people that imbibe substances at rates similar to that of the general population. America uses lots of drugs, legal and otherwise, despite claiming to be a puritanical and clear headed nation.
Well thanks so much for volunteering to be LR's hall monitor, but I think there's a jaywalker down the street that you need to go give a stern talking-to.
Jaywalking is a traffic violation.
Many of these drugs are criminal.
Usage in the sport world even if you don't get tested is still illegal in racing federations.
To answer the OP's question, LRC is not populated by dedicated runners still pursuing serious training. It is 90% hobby joggers that are either well past their best competitive days or mediocre age-group athletes still seeking relevance at local road races. Most are middle-aged suburban dads with full-time jobs, mortgages, kids, and boring marriages despite their bluster and braggadocio. Many of the most prolific posters do not even discuss running on this board. They are just regular people that imbibe substances at rates similar to that of the general population. America uses lots of drugs, legal and otherwise, despite claiming to be a puritanical and clear headed nation.
Hobby Jogger or not, if they are training or racing under the influence of a drug, they and their time concurrently are not clean.
Yes, the problem is that you don't have the wheels for sub 2:00, bucko.
The fact that you would claim a time while hopped on acid as an actual PR is seriously more problematic here.
Whatever i can or can't do always results in an honest time.
You can't claim this.
I never said PR, I said SB. My PR is significantly faster from a few years later that I ran stone cold sober. I did vape some weed after my cooldown though.
Fun. I had, like, zero pre-race nerves. 1:56 was about on par with my SB at the time, so I don't think it really aided or hindered performance. But I had a smile on my face the whole time.
My most memorable experience on acid was when I experienced synesthesia - blending of senses.
I was tripping ballz on two hits of acid (100 mikes each, standard then) and started playing Guns and Roses Appetite album (vinyl!). Sweet Child of Mine comes on and I’m seeing music looking colored waves floating out of the speaker. I remember thinking I had discovered that music was modulated by gravitational waves!
Wild stuff that acid. I liked shrooms better, though. Less intense, more giggly. Like if I was on shrooms right now reading “Honest Mike” comments, I’d be literally (yes, literally) ROFPiMPaLing.
It’s been decades since I did any psychs. You just get older and lose interest. I wouldn’t even know where to find any. I guess I could ask one of the weedheads at work.
Fun. I had, like, zero pre-race nerves. 1:56 was about on par with my SB at the time, so I don't think it really aided or hindered performance. But I had a smile on my face the whole time.
My most memorable experience on acid was when I experienced synesthesia - blending of senses.
I was tripping ballz on two hits of acid (100 mikes each, standard then) and started playing Guns and Roses Appetite album (vinyl!). Sweet Child of Mine comes on and I’m seeing music looking colored waves floating out of the speaker. I remember thinking I had discovered that music was modulated by gravitational waves!
Wild stuff that acid. I liked shrooms better, though. Less intense, more giggly. Like if I was on shrooms right now reading “Honest Mike” comments, I’d be literally (yes, literally) ROFPiMPaLing.
It’s been decades since I did any psychs. You just get older and lose interest. I wouldn’t even know where to find any. I guess I could ask one of the weedheads at work.
You can legally attain mushrooms in Washington DC. It's decriminalized and can be given as a gift, and there are "art shops" that give out mushrooms as a gift when you purchase "art." I purchased a sticker for $240...
The actual elephant in the room is the % of posters here quite obviously mentally ill. Posters like you and Greg and carmine and rojo. Manic episodes are responsible for most of this site’s traffic. How long till you threaten someone with violence again? Always southing it up 😂
Trust me, non elite distance runners are not the demographic with a drug problem. The big fraudma (pharmaceutical) industry wants everyone on drugs. It's estimated about 1 in 5 people need a pill to get through the day. This is what big fraudma wants. Then they get even greedily and add the vaccines and pay off the institution to mandate them.