It is really frustrating to have Coaches who won't return a call or email of a runner who wants to try to walk on or see what they need to do to obtain a chance.
In the old book Running with the Buffalos some of the runners were former walk-ons. I believe one of the top 5 from that season had been (Friedberg) and the author talks about others from previous years who went from walk-on to All American.
We had a walk on time trial my freshman year. The guy who won it was an international student who ran 15:12 that day for 5000. The standard to get on the team was supposed to be 15:00 which was a little dumb because we definitely had freshmen on the team that couldn't run 15:12 the first week of cross country season, let alone sub-15. The coaching staff let the guy on the team. He was top 5 on our XC team by sophomore year and ended up being second team all-west region. He also ran 14:03 on the track. The rest of our freshman class (all recruited) that included a 4:08 HS miler and a Foot locker finalist failed to even stay on the team all four years.
There was also a walk-on who was a year older than me that ended up running 14:2x and 29:2x on the track and made our XC top seven for three years.
In the old book Running with the Buffalos some of the runners were former walk-ons. I believe one of the top 5 from that season had been (Friedberg) and the author talks about others from previous years who went from walk-on to All American.
There's a difference between someone who was recruited to be a walk-on, and someone who was not really given any attention or any spot on the team and later earned a spot through a tryout or similar thing (running on club team and getting faster)
One example I can think of is Michael VanVoorhis in 2013-2015 who didn't make it on the team at Wisconsin, but ran on the club team. Ended up running near 14:10 while on the club team and got a spot on the regular team. Went on to finish top 3 at Big Ten Championships a couple times, running around 29 flat for 10k, and around 13:50 for 5k.
So he went from not being on the team and just a regular student at Wisconsin competing for the run club, to being first team all big ten and running at NCAA championships
In the old book Running with the Buffalos some of the runners were former walk-ons. I believe one of the top 5 from that season had been (Friedberg) and the author talks about others from previous years who went from walk-on to All American.
There's a difference between someone who was recruited to be a walk-on, and someone who was not really given any attention or any spot on the team and later earned a spot through a tryout or similar thing (running on club team and getting faster)
One example I can think of is Michael VanVoorhis in 2013-2015 who didn't make it on the team at Wisconsin, but ran on the club team. Ended up running near 14:10 while on the club team and got a spot on the regular team. Went on to finish top 3 at Big Ten Championships a couple times, running around 29 flat for 10k, and around 13:50 for 5k.
So he went from not being on the team and just a regular student at Wisconsin competing for the run club, to being first team all big ten and running at NCAA championships
His HS PRs of 4:23/9:44 indicate he was undertrained in HS so he is only a comp for walk-ons who were also undertrained.
One example I can think of is Michael VanVoorhis in 2013-2015 who didn't make it on the team at Wisconsin, but ran on the club team. Ended up running near 14:10 while on the club team and got a spot on the regular team. Went on to finish top 3 at Big Ten Championships a couple times, running around 29 flat for 10k, and around 13:50 for 5k.
Here's a good article on his experience walking on at Wisconsin. Even after he got on the team, he almost got booted off. "In the beginning he was difficult to coach, and I can honestly say a couple of times I got in his face and came very close to kicking him off the team."