Is 1:50 for 800m possible?

Flour wrote:

You are a very fast miller.

Whatdoyouthink wrote:

I'm a 4:02 miller and an 8:50 2 mile runner. I just ran the 800 one time at 1:56 last year (splits 60/56) and I have no experience.

This year in my base for 1500 indoors I've done some fast workouts like:

3 x 500 69.5 average with 3 min rest in a very windy and rainy day;

I've done multiple times at the end of workouts 68” 500, 52.0 400 or 38.0 300

Ps: I'm not doing a lot of speed work yet, just 1500/3k pace and once in a while 800m pace at the end.

Do you think I have a shot in the outdoor season?

Any 800 advice would be welcomed

Flour wrote:

You are a very fast miller.

hound dawg wrote:

Flour wrote:

You are a very fast miller.

Yeah, well that's like, your opinion, man.

What if he's millin like, one corn? That ain't fast. 4:02 just ain't fast.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Whatdoyouthink wrote:

I'm a 4:02 miller and an 8:50 2 mile runner. I just ran the 800 one time at 1:56 last year (splits 60/56) and I have no experience.

This year in my base for 1500 indoors I've done some fast workouts like:

3 x 500 69.5 average with 3 min rest in a very windy and rainy day;

I've done multiple times at the end of workouts 68” 500, 52.0 400 or 38.0 300

Ps: I'm not doing a lot of speed work yet, just 1500/3k pace and once in a while 800m pace at the end.

Do you think I have a shot in the outdoor season?

Any 800 advice would be welcomed

8:50 is not nearly as good as 4:02 which would put you on the speed side of the mile, so 1:50 should be doable.

Whatdoyouthink wrote:

hound dawg wrote:

Yeah, well that's like, your opinion, man.

What if he's millin like, one corn? That ain't fast. 4:02 just ain't fast.

Well it's your opinion as well if 4:02 is fast or not, but for me it is, because last summer I was running 3:51 1500m. But my question here is if you think I can get to 1:50 800 in this summer

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Whatdoyouthink wrote:

Well it's your opinion as well if 4:02 is fast or not, but for me it is, because last summer I was running 3:51 1500m. But my question here is if you think I can get to 1:50 800 in this summer

That makes it a different question and 3:51 fitness is not indicative of running a 1:50. Why did you have a setback last summer?

(200 to 3000)m T&F utility man wrote:

Over three weeks with fresh legs, give us 2 to 6 F.A.T. 200m TT results. No rolling starts. If you cannot sprint F.A.T. sub-26.75 200m to save your life, most likely not. If F.A.T. sub-24.75 200m, most likely yes.

Whatdoyouthink wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

That makes it a different question and 3:51 fitness is not indicative of running a 1:50. Why did you have a setback last summer?

You didn't understand what I was saying. The last summer at the peak of the season I ran 3:51 1500 which was my PB, but this present season I already ran the equivalent to a 4:03/4:02 mile, without doing a lot of speed work and without peaking, so my progress has been huge.

Whatdoyouthink wrote:

I'm a 4:02 miller and an 8:50 2 mile runner. I just ran the 800 one time at 1:56 last year (splits 60/56) and I have no experience.

This year in my base for 1500 indoors I've done some fast workouts like:

3 x 500 69.5 average with 3 min rest in a very windy and rainy day;

I've done multiple times at the end of workouts 68” 500, 52.0 400 or 38.0 300

Ps: I'm not doing a lot of speed work yet, just 1500/3k pace and once in a while 800m pace at the end.

Do you think I have a shot in the outdoor season?

Any 800 advice would be welcomed

Runner1218 wrote:

1:50 should be feasible, however just not on your first attempt. Aim for 1:52 and see how that feels going into final lap - maybe splits like 54 and then close hard. Continue to iron out your speed and definitely by end of season should achieve 1:50.00 and maybe 1:49.

(200 to 3000)m T&F utility man wrote:

Over three weeks with fresh legs, give us 2 to 6 F.A.T. 200m TT results. No rolling starts. If you cannot sprint F.A.T. sub-26.75 200m to save your life, most likely not. If F.A.T. sub-24.75 200m, most likely yes.